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Fairfield University Oral History Transcripts ------------------------------------------------------------------ Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J. Assistant Principal, Fairfield College Preparatory School; Musical Director; Director Emeritus, Alumni Relations March 23, 1992 Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J. a brief biography “I thought it was a terrific challenge. It was wonderful, because it was really pioneering and we had to face the facts that we had to do a lot of work. We went out every weekend helping out in parishes locally because we needed to help the financial support of the community, but it was a very challenging and wonderful experience. I'd go through it again -- pioneering -- because there's one thing that I remember most forcefully. The wonderful support on the part of the parents… The parents were most helpful to us and that's why I never want them to be forgotten.” Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J., was born October 8, 1906 in Brockton, Massachusetts. He attended St. Patrick’s Parochial School in 1912 and then Boston College High School from 1920 to 1924. He earned a B.A. from Boston College in 1928. Father Murphy grew up learning to play the piano, organ and violin, playing at such Brockton, Massachusetts movie theatres as the Brockton, Strand, and Rialto. “I played the organ at the old silent movies,” he said. “That’s how I paid my way through college.” He entered the Society of Jesus at Shadowbrook in Lenox, Massachusetts on August 14, 1928. Father Murphy received his M.A. in Philosophy from Weston College in Weston, Massachusetts in 1934. He taught philosophy and English at the College of the Holy Cross from 1934 to 1936, and then studied theology at Weston College from 1936 to 1940. After being ordained a priest on June 17, 1939 and spending his Tertian year at Pomfret, Connecticut, Father Murphy was assigned to St. Mary’s Parish in Boston in 1941. In February 1943, Father Murphy came to Fairfield College Preparatory School as a teacher of Latin, English, public speech and religion as well as the school’s Musical Director. At this time, a total of 300 students were enrolled at the school, attending classes in McAullife Hall. An accomplished musician, Father Murphy organized the Glee Club and orchestra, and composed the Prep Fight Song as well as the Alma Mater to accompany words written by his colleague Rev. John H. Kelly, S.J. In 1947, Father Murphy was appointed Assistant Principal of Fairfield Prep, a position he held until 1950. Also in 1947, Father Murphy witnessed first-hand the signing of the charter which established the newly created Fairfield University by Governor Raymond Baldwin in Hartford, Connecticut. From 1950 to 1967, Father Murphy held the position of Student Counselor, also serving as Vocational Guidance Director for seniors and juniors. From 1967 until 1977, Father Murphy served as the school’s Director of Alumni Relations and Moderator of the Bellarmine Guild. He also worked closely with the Bellarmine Father’s Club and was Moderator of the Sodality of Our Lady, as well as being a retreat master on numerous occasions. Father Murphy retired in 1977 as Director Emeritus of Alumni Relations. After his official retirement, Father Murphy continued to play cocktail piano music at the Center for Financial Studies at Fairfield University, the Black Rock Yacht Club for sing-a-longs and also for retired people at nursing homes. In 1984 he produced an album of popular songs called “At the Piano with Father Tom,” which included numbers like “Over the Rainbow,” “Danny Boy,” and “Bells are Ringing.” The album earned him television performances on the Joe Franklin Show and NBC’s The Prime of Your Life and its proceeds went to the Bellarmine Guild at Fairfield. In 1992, Father Murphy was honored for his years of dedicated service with a 50th Anniversary Jubilee Medal. Later a plaque with his name was erected in his honor by Fairfield College Preparatory School. Sources: Public Relations Files, Folder “Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J.,” Fairfield University Archives and Special Collections. Photograph: Fairfield University Manor, 1958. WARNING CONCERNING COPYRIGHT RESTRICTIONS The copyright law of the United States (Title 17, U.S. Code) governs the making of photocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material. Under certain conditions specified by law, libraries and archives are authorized to furnish a photocopy or other reproduction. One of these specified conditions is that the photocopy or reproduction is not to be used for any purpose other than private study, scholarship, or research. As a component of the library and archives of Fairfield University, the mission of this database is to provide relevant information pertaining to the history of Fairfield University. It is expected that use of this document will be for informational and non-commercial use only, that the document will not be re-copied or re-posted on any other network computer or broadcast in any other media, and that no modifications of any kind will be made to the document itself. If electronic transmission of this material is used for purposes in excess of what constitutes “fair use,” that user may be liable for copyright infringement. Use for purposes other than private study, scholarship, or research is expressly prohibited. Please note: the cover page, biography and copyright statement are not part of the original transcript document. INTERVIEW WITH FATHER THOMAS MURPHY April, 1992 QUESTION $1, VHS u 10-00-00-00) WHAT WAS HERE THEN WHEN YOU FIRST -. -- ARRIVED? ANSWER : There was McAuliffe Hall and ~ellarmine Hall. Those were the two places on the campus and we lived in Bellarmine and then we'd have to walk over to McAuliffe, across every day and there were a lot . of woods around at that time and we'd walk down. in the morning and have to go through a fence to walk up to McAuliffe and we'd teach up there. It was very primitive and so on. It was a very interesting thing. The Parents, the Father's Club raised money to build a road to connect the two properties. That was a great asset for us because @ that meant that we didn't have to jump through the fence, through the woods, to get up to McAuliffe, so it was very wonderful, very 'primitive, but we loved it. 9UESTION $2, VHS fi (0-00-56-231 WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE ORIGINALLY WHEN YOU FIRST CAME? HOW DID YOU FIRST COME TO BE HERE? ANSWER: Well, I was supposed to have gone on and do graduate studies and I was supposed to go on to the Missions and that was changed so then they sent me to St. Mary's Church in Boston. I was supposed to have gone for a Doctoral Degree in Music, but the war broke out, so I went to St. Mary's Parish in Boston, a Jesuit church there and did a lot of preaching and then they were going to have me :@ go on and study preaching for two years and then I received a letter from the Provincial, Father Dolan, asking me t o accept a quick change t o F a i r f i e l d Prep. I said "Where's F a i r f i e l d Prep?'' So I came down here on February 15, 1943 and I took over a freshman class. I taught Latin and English, Theology and then they organized the musical t a l e n t in the school, an orchestra and glee club. Then Father John Kelly, who was the Prefect of Discipline, he was very clever a t words for songs, so one evening I s t a r t e d playing the piano and he and I composed the Prep Fight Song, the Prep Alma Mater. He wrote the words and I did the music, so t h a t was in '43 and I've been here ever since. Over the years a f t e r teaching, I was made Assistant Principal for two years in McAuliffe a t the t i m e because Berchmans was opened a t t h a t t i m e and then a f t e r t h a t , I was made the Student Counselor, Guidance Counselor. I was the only Guidance Counselor a t t h a t time i n 1947, it was. That was in Berchmans a t the t i m e . And then because the school had grown so and the faculty had grown, when they b u i l t Berchmans, the top floor was supposed t o be a Physics Lab and a Chemistry Lab, but we needed more room for J e s u i t s s o they made living quarters up there for us -- 14 of u s l i v e d up there -- and it so happened that I lived there for 32 years. QUESTION $3, VHS (0-03-22-00) I N 1943, WAS THAT THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PREP SCHOOL? ANSWER: That's r i g h t . It opened in September of 1942 and the f i r s t graduation was '43 of people who had transferred t o the school. There w e r e about 8 or 9 who graduated t h a t year. I forget the exact number you know. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 2 a QUESTION $4, VHS u j0-03-42-01) NOW WHERE'DID THEY GO AFTER GRADUATION --ON TO COLLEGE? ANSWER: They went to college and some of them had to go into the Service .- and so on. It was very interesting and many of them have passed on now, but I've tried to keep up contact with them over the years. QUESTION $5, VHS u (0-03-58-11) WHERE WERE THE STUDENTS FROM AT THE BEGINNING --RIGHT AROUND HERE, OR...? ANSWER: Well, some of them came from New Haven, but most of them were local, either from Bridgeport and Stamford and Fairfield and Norwalk. 9UESTION $6, VHS 10-04-15-01) IT MUST HAVE BEEN KIND OF STRANGE, I WOULD IMAGINE TO BE TEACHING STUDENTS WHO YOU KNEW WERE GOING TO GO INTO THE SERVICE AND MAY NEVER HAVE SURVIVED THE WAR. ANSWER: Well, see, I taught the Freshmen and though they were actually in their last year of high school at the time, so I didn't know them at the time, but some of our Jesuits, Father Eugene Burns taught them and he taught French and Latin and so on, but they met all the requirements if they wanted to go to college. It was very exacting at the time. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 3 QUESTION $7, VHS (0-04-48-04L HOW DID YOU SORT OF FEEL ABOUT BEING HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS? ANSWER : Oh, I thought it was a terrific challenge. It was wonderful, because it was really pioneering and we had to face the facts that we had to do a lot of work. We went out every weekend helping out in parishes locally because we needed to help the financial support of the community, but it was a very challenging and wonderful experience. I'd go through it--again -- pioneering -- because there's one thing that I remember most forcefully. The wonderful support on the part of the parents. Mrs. Ellen Gilhuly who just received a medal for the 50th, our 50th year medal, she founded the Bellannine Guild and they raised money for the school. She had a $10 Club and they raised enough money so that we could put in a Physics Lab at the Prep School in McAuliffe. The parents were most helpful to us and that's why I never want them to be forgotten because as I told you, the Father's Club raised money to build a new road connecting the property and Mrs. Gilhuly started a Mother's Club and it's gone on now for 50 years -- most supportive over those years. QUESTION $8, VHS ~ (0-06-16-03) HOW DID THESE CLUBS GET STARTED? ANSWER : Well, they were all the parents of the students and that's the way they started. They had a monthly meeting -- I think on the 3rd Wednesday of each month and was very helpful to us. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 4 QUESTION $9, VHS u (0-06-36-18) DID YOU GO AND ATTEND THE MEETINGS OR SPEAK AT THE MEETINGS? ANSWER: Father Barry, James Barry, he was the Chaplain and Father Jim went to Jamaica and so I took over then-as the Chaplain of the Bellmarmine Guild. We'd have a group in Bridgeport, a group in Stamford, a group in Norwalk and a group in New Haven, so they'd have their monthly meetings, but then it was brought in to have one group only in Bridgeport and they'd come to the-meetings, but they were most supportive over the years, running Bridge parties and running style shows and all this business, whatever they had to raise money for us, you know. QUESTION $10. VHS u (0-07-23-16) HOW DID YOU DECIDE WHAT THE MONEY SHOULD BE RAISED FOR? ANSWER: Well that was up to the Rector at the time. We had nothing to do with that, unless they designated for some particular thing. It was a great help because we really needed financial help at the time. Our tuition that first year was $100, plus a $5.00 Activi.ty Fee and we had 19 Jesuits he-re and so we just took things in stride. Oral History: Thomas -Murphy, S.J. Page 5 QUESTION $11. VHS fi (0-07-52-181 HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE HERE I N THE EARLY YEARS? ANSWER: I think about, maybe a t the beginning about 300 I think. I stand open t o question about t h a t . It grew as the things went on, you know. I think an i n t e r e s t i n g ... the words of the Prep Song, which Father Kelly wrote, "in '42 the world was blue and needed something ... something new, something t z ' r e v i v e its f a l t e r i n g steps and someone got the inspiration and shouted out t o a l l the nation what w i l l ease the s i t u a t i o n , F a i r f i e l d College Prep.'' So he wrote t h a t and we made copies of it and we sold it and so on, so it was raising money. It was a l l the question of raising money f o r t h e needs of the school. 9UESTION $12, VHS fi (0-08-42-28) WAS THERE ALWAYS THE SENSE THAT ASIDE FROM THE PREP THERE EVENTUALLY WOULD BE A COLLEGE HERE AS WELL? ANSWER : I wasn't aware of it a t t h a t t i m e , but as Father Dolan came in, he told us about the plans. It's very, very i n t e r e s t i n g . They got the charter f o r t h e University and there was a lawyer, Gaynor Brennan, who's passed on from Stamford. He had two sons a t Prep and h i s brother, B i l l , was a big man on the Republican Party in Connecticut and Gaynor, through h i s influence, was able t o get the charter, so when the charter came, I went up with Father Dolan and Gaynor Brennan, f i r s t of a l l t o Wesleyan University where ~ i l b u r Snow, the Lt. Governor, signed it and then we went up t o the State House where Governor Baldwin signed the charter and I was with Father Oral History: Thomas ' Murphy, S .J. Page 6 Dolan. I saw Father Dolan sign that charter and it was a very memorable occasion and that was around, I think '45, that happened and then the University started in '47 because first of all, he was very progressive and having had a lot of business experience, he put up Berchmans Hall. Very interesting about Berchmans...it was during the time of the War and to get permission was'very, very difficult and he had applied and it didn't look too hopeful. I had a brother Morris Murphy who was in Washington on the W.P.B. and it was through his influence, too, that the permission came through to put up Berchmans, so it was very successful. Then the University occupied the first floor of Berchmans when they opened. QUESTION $13, VHS (0-10-40-241 WHAT KIND OF BUILDING WAS BERCHMANS? I MEAN, WERE YOU INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING FOR IT, OR THE ACTUAL PLANS FOR THE BUILDING? ANSWER : The plans for Father Dolanls you mean? QUESTION $13 (CTN) YES. FOR BERCHMANS. WERE YOU PRIVY TO WHAT HE WAS PLANNING FOR THAT BUILDING? ANSWER: Well he showed us the plans. There were to be classrooms, all classrooms and the cafeteria and a lounge for the faculty. As I mentioned, the labs were to be up on the fourth floor and it just didn't work out and that's when 14 Jesuits occupied the place, but it was supposed to be all classrooms. Now remember, the fact that we had to face when we lived up there they didn't have enough money to Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 7 put the elevator in the first year so those of us who lived up there had to walk up the five flights every day and so on, but it was part of the way of pioneering and I was thin and after one year, we did get the elevator, so it was good. 9UESTION $14, VHS fl (0-11-46-281 DID FATHER DOLAN LIVE THERE AS WELL? ANSWER: Oh no, he lived in McAuliffeT-'Oh no, he lived in Bellarmine. That's where the Rectors always lived -- up in Bellarmine. 9UESTION $14 (CTN) WHAT KIND OF MAN WAS FATHER DOLAN? ANSWER : Father Dolan was a very gifted man, businesswise. He had @ been President of Boston College. He was Provcinial and then he came down here as Rector. He was very wonderful in business because the years he was here, he paid off the debt in Berchmans and Xavier. With us, he was a very strict superior, but he accomplished great things and we did what he told us to do and that's what I think made us love the place so much because we saw the development and we could look to the future as he planned it. But the pioneering was a challenge to us and he was kind to us, but at the same time, he was demanding and very strict on rules and so on, which was a very good point. Oral History: ~homas Murphy, S.J. Page 8 9UESTION $15, VHS #1 (0-13-05-001 DID YOU WORK WITH HIM ON ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT AT ALL? ANSWER: Well, no, I would have frequent contacts with him, especially when I was Assistant Principal and also Guidance Counselor and also when I had charge of the music and so on. You'd go in and talk things over with him and so on because the first years would always have a Glee Club Concert with Laurelton Hall and that went on for years, so he was aware of these things. Then we'd have the Glee Club sing for the parents and the gatherings of the Parents' Nights and so on and any of the plays that we had, which we would put on down in the Klein Memorial. He would be aware of all that because we'd notify him of everything that was going on because he had to keep his hand on the pulse of things. QUESTION $16, VHS #1 (0-14-00-20) WHEN YOU WERE GUIDANCE COUNSELOR, WERE THERE ANY PARTICULAR PROBLEMS THAT CAME UP THAT YOU SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT ALL THAT YOU RECALL? ANSWER : It was a wonderful thing if the Guidance Counselor and also the Spiritual Counselor that it was a wonderful experience for me 'cause I would interview every Junior and every Senior and during those days, it would be wonderful to hear of their intentions of going on to college and so many of them did and so many of them went to Fairfield University which was a wonderful tribute to us as Jesuits. I remember many vocations came from the Prep School at the Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 9 @ time. There were 7 priests who are actively in the priesthood in the Hartford Diocese who went to Prep. I would be, not only the Guidance Counselor, but the Spiritual Counselor, too and that was part of the pattern which has changed of late. There's one active in the priesthood in Atlanta Diocese. ~ h e s - a S 3 4 - a c t i v ein the priesthood in the Bridgeport Diocese, 4 active in the priesthood in the Franciscans, 1 active in the Priesthood of the Lasolette, 1 active in the Priesthood in the Benedictines, 2 are active in the Holy Ghost Fathers and 2 are in Maryknoll and 1 is-active in the Mill Hill Fathers in England and 1 of our graduates is Bishop of Iceland, Father Jolson; he was our first vocation, but it wasn't only the academics, but also the spiritual at that time because you combined the Academics with the Spiritual. It was very good because you could never make a judgment on a high school boy at Prep because some people, you'd look and see, they didn't have much in the way of potential until they matured and when they matured, they established themselves beautifully in all the various professions and so on and so many doctors in this area and so many lawyers and businessmen and education and so on, that's why you could never make a judgment regardingstheir teen-ager because as they matured, they achieved great things for themselves and it's been a great credit to their parents and to the school and to us. QUESTION #17, VHS (0-16-31-26) THIS MATURING PROCESS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT --HOW WOULD IT MANIFEST ITSELF? HOW WOULD YOU Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 10 SEE IT HAPPENING? ANSWER : Well, first of all, they wouldn't be doing their homework and you'd have to punish them for it and the more strict you were with them, the better you were going to get results. Then if they went on to their junior year and then their senior year, saw the manifestations because they were thi,nking in terms of college, they had to take the College Boards and so on and the maturity, it would appear then, but it did not come to its fullness until they got to -- - college. That actually happened to-me. I really didn't reach my maturity until I got my junior year at college and when I did, it was a great asset for me because I received many academic honors at the time, which my family didn't expect at the time, but I said to myself, "Well I want to dedicate myself to a particular work1' and I was thinking in terms of the Jesuits and so on and I said wWell, 1'11 see how my marks arew and spiritually, I asked for help and guidance and I got it and I achieved and that maturity came in my junior year at college. I graduated from Boston College and that's also happened to many of our Prep Students. Once they get into college, too, they matured and it was a tremendous factor. So many of them in the area have never forgotten our own ability to make them realize their potential is there if they'll only do their work and that had to be stressed and I must say they had a nickname; they had nicknames -- they always called me "Little Caesarw for the simple reason that I demanded that they lived up to their contract with their parents to do their homework and to do their studies and so on Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 11 because if they didn't, then they would fail and then they would discredit themselves to their parents and so on, so it was interesting. QUESTION # 18. VHS #1 (0-18-50-031 WAS THE COURSE OF STUDY HERE, AND IS IT STILL MORE DEMANDING THAN THE USUAL PUBLIC SCHOOL PROGRAM? ANSWER : It was at that time when I was actually teaching because they had to take Latin for 4 years and English for 4 years and they had to take a Modern Language and they had to take Chemistry and they had to take Physics and so on and all those things were demanding. It wasn't a question of an elective and some people who were very gifted also took Greek, but not all of them took Greek, but they had the Latin, the English and the Modern Language and the Sciences, so it was very demanding and they achieved. It wasn't easy on us because we would be teaching Latin, English and Theology and so on and other men would be teaching History, Chemistry, Mathematics and Physics and so on, so it was very demanding. 9UESTION $19, VHS #1 j0-19-47-071 SO YOU GENERALLY TAUGHT MORE THAN ONE TYPE OF COURSE? ANSWER: That's right. Most of us as we called Homeroom Teachers, would teach Latin and English, Public Speaking and Religion and those who had homerooms, then the others would come in with their History and their Mathematics and their Physics and Chemistry. When I was at college, of course, Boston College at the time, an AB Degree and I went to Boston College High School too, you took Latin and Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 12 Greek and English and you also at college you had to take Physics and Mathematics and Chemistry and so on and it was very demanding. That was the old AB degree then. .--A PUESTION $20, VHS #1 (0-20-32-29) THE--EARLY DAYS, I 'VE READ ABOUT THE JESUITS WHO WERE HERE ... THEY SORT OF HAD TO BE A JACK OF ALL TRADES, NOT ONLY DID YOU TEACH, BUT YOU HAD TO REPAIR CERTAIN THINGS IF THEY BROKE DOWN, YOU HAD TO MOW THE LAWN. ANSWER: That's right. We did. We had to take our turns up at the house. When the Chef was off for the weekend we'd have to take our turns helping in the kitchen and so on, helping to take care of the lawns up there because we didn't have the money at the time, so we had to do a lot of those particular jobs for the sake of economy, 'cause we didn't have the money to hire people at the time. QUESTION j/2l, VHS #1 (0-21-14-01) WHAT WAS THE RECEPTION WITHIN THE FAIRFIELD COMMUNITY TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NOW A PREP SCHOOL AND EVENTUALLY A COLLEGE? ANSWER : Oh, it was very well received. I never noticed any negative attitudes at all in my years here and I'm in my 50th year now. In the beginning of those early years, I never noticed any negative attitude whatsoever. We were always well received it seems to be, so I never noticed anything negative. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 13 9UESTION $22, VHS fi JO-21-43-25] WE ARE IN THE '40's AND MOVING INTO THE EARLY '50's AS YOU WENT ABOUT TRYING TO GET NEW STUDENTS TO COME HERE...HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT DOING THAT? HOW WAS THE RECRUITING OF STUDENTS DONE? ANSWER: They would go around the various schools. The Principal of the school at the time, they would go--around to the various churches and announce the examinations for Prep and also it would be in the papers and also they'd go around to some of the schools. Now they go around to many more schools than they did in our time. We'd advertise it in the churches and the papers and we would have the entrance examinations. Many would come and we could judge how many we could take. 9UESTION $23, VHS a (0-23-06-09) DID YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM GETTING ENOUGH STUDENTS? ANSWER: No. We were getting so many at one time we had to buy a place in Bridgeport, down in (I forget the name of the street) and we had ... University of Bridgeport finally bought that property; we had that for 2 years and the freshman went there for 2 years and then when we expanded and had Berchmans, they came back to the campus here. QUESTION 424. VHS (0-23-38-22) DO YOU RECALL THE BUILDING OF Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 14 THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN NOW? ANSWER: I do. I've seen them all go up -- every one of them. GUESTION $24 (CTN) AND THE PREP SCHOOL WAS EVENTUALLY MOVED INTO -- A HERE, WASN'T IT? ANSWER: It was. Eventually it was supposed to be here, but with the expansion of the college, Berchmans was the first building that went up and then Xavier where we are now and then the expansion has been tremendous. It's been a wonderful~'b1essing from Almighty God. When you stop and think -- 220 acres we got when we bought those 2 properties and now it's expanded even more with the Dolan Campus, but it's been remarkable the way the development a has succeeded. QUESTION $25, VHS #1 (0-23-54-20) DID THE WAR IMPACT THE PREP AT ALL? I MEAN, WAS IT MORE DIFFICULT TO GET STUDENTS OR WERE STUDENTS LEAVING PART WAY THROUGH TO GO INTO THE SERVICE? ANSWER: You mean for the Prep School? YES. No, no. There was no difficulty that way. Some of them, as I mentioned, some seniors left to go into the Service, but no, we always had good numbers applying. QUESTION $26, (CTN) . YOU WERE ALSO WORKING WITH THE GLEE CLUB DURING ALL OF THE TIME THAT YOU WERE THERE. ANSWER: That's right. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 15 9UESTION $27, VHS #1 (0-24-18-181 HOW DID YOU FIND STUDENTS FOR - - - - -- - -- - - THE GLEE CLUB? DID YOU AUDITION? ANSWER: We'd audition and what we had all this extra-curricular activities. We had Debating and we had the Bellarmine Quarterly which was a magazine that they put out, we had people working on the Hearthstone, which was the Yearbook, we-~-d-.-hpaevoep le in the Glee Club, in the musical clubs, but it would be after school once a week and that's the way we started all, 'cause then we got to know the students better by this extra curricular activities and also the athletics too, that was very, very good because then the Priest who was Chaplain of the Athletic Department, he would get to know them very well and we had all the athletic activities for them which was very, very wonderful. PUESTION $28, VHS #1 (0-25-16-281 WHERE DID THE GLEE CLUB SING, GENERALLY? WAS IT JUST HERE? ANSWER: We'd sing for the parents, for the Parents' Meetings and any occasions that might come up. We might go out locally some place. There weren't too many because you had changing voices at that age level, but then the Laurelton Hall was the big factor, but that was the Prep School. The University, of course, has been tremendous in their development of the musical clubs. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 16 QUESTION $29, VHS #1 (0-25-48-01) NOW, FATHER DOLAN, I GUESS WAS -- IN CHARGE OF THE PREP AT THE BEGINNING. IS THAT RIGHT? ANSWER: Father McEleney FATHER MCELENEY. Later, Bishop McEleney. He was a tremendous, tremendous man. He had great rapport with the people, great rapport and he was only here for about '42, I think it was '44 he went to Boston as Provincial and Father Dolan came back here and Father McEleney was tremendous. He established a great rapport with the people and he was wonderful with us. Knowing that we're meeting the challenge of pioneering he was very kind and thoughtful and very sensitive to our needs too. QUESTION $30. VHS #1 (0-26-34-041 WAS THERE ANY FEELING IN THOSE EARLY DAYS THAT THE PREP SCHOOL MIGHT NOT SUCCEED? DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THE SUCCESS? ANSWER: No, I never did. I never felt that. I hope it will never happen because it's established itself so well, although it's a question of finances, I guess. It's expensive every place, but no there was never any talk of closing it down. $WESTION $31, VHS #1 (0-27-05-041 IF YOU HAD TO COMPARE FATHER MCELENEY WITH FATHER DOLAN, WERE THEY THE SAME IN PERSONALITY OR DIFFERENT? ANSWER: Oh .no, different personality. Father Dolan Oral History: Thomas Murphy; S.J. Page 17 was a great business man, very demanding, in a professional way. Father McEleney was not as demanding, but he would accomplish the same thing in a different mode. - QUESTION $32, VHS #1 (0-27-31-23) WHAT -EXACTLY DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? Father McEleney, when he would see you, "How are you feeling? You're not over-tired now, or if you are over-tired, I want you to go to the City for a day and just relax." With Father Dolan, that wouldnlt happen, you see, but Father Dolan had other great assets which were tremendous with what he's accomplishing. Father McEleney would accomplish it, but in a different way, but I think the rapport with the people, which he left a great heritage to Father Dolan because Father Dolan picked up the friendliness of these people that had been established by Father McEleney. QUESTION 433, VHS #1 10-28-18-17) AFTER FATHER DOLAN LEFT, WHO TOOK OVER THE RUNNING OF THE PREP SCHOOL? WHO WAS THE NEXT? DO YOU RECALL WHO WAS THE NEXT? ANSWER: Father Joseph Fitzgerald was the next Rector and he was wonderful. He had been Dean at Holy Cross College and I think he was in the Provincialls Office in educational capacity. He was very fine. Father Joseph Fitzgerald. PUESTION $34, VHS #1 (0-28-45-19) DID HE RUN BOTH THE UNIVERSITY AND THE PREP SCHOOL? WAS HE IN CHARGE OF BOTH? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 18 He did. QUESTION $35, VHS #1 10-28-48-181 IT WASN'T SPLIT OFF? ANSWER: No, no. You see, we're under the jurisdiction in a way of the University. In so many Jesuit places, they're separated from the University, but not here, as of now. QUESTION $36, VHS #1 (0-29-06-151 WAS -T. HERE A LOT OF TURNOVER AMONG THE JESUIT TEACHERS? DID THEY COME FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN GO OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE? ANSWER: That's right, that's right. I SEE. Many of them transferred. Some of them came from Boston College. They were transferred down here from Holy Cross and from Boston College High School. In those days they transferred you. It never happened to me so I was never transferred but many of them were here for perhaps two or three years and then they went back to their other assignment. It was, at the time, you expected changes, because where there was a need, they had to make the change and those changes took place. Many were transferred. QUESTION $37, VHS #1 (0-29-55-03) DO- YOU RECALL ANY OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY --ANY THAT STAND OUT FOR YOU? ANSWER: Yes, I remember Father Rodney McDonald, God be good to him, he's passed on now, very gifted man in Physics and he was here Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 19 in the Physics Department at the University from the beginning. Then he went to Holy Cross to teach up there and he passed away about a year and a half ago. Father Langguth who taught Physics at the Prep became the first Dean of the University and then when he was in charge ... at a particular time he was made--Rector of Shadowbrook, our Novitiate in Lenox, Massachusetts and he did a great job up there. After his term, he went down to Fall River to teach there in our high school. It's an amazing thing. Father -. Langguth was studying at Harvard for his Doctoral Degree in Physics and in those days, you just received letters. I received a letter to come to Fairfield. He received a letter about a month ahead of me to give up Harvard and come to Fairfield. Father John Kelly did a lot a of radio work around Boston. One time he was located at Holy Cross. He received a letter. "Come to Fairfield''. So, in those days, you just obeyed and came. They accomplished great things. QUESTION $38, VHS #1 (0-31-32-08) WE TALKED TO FATHER LANGGUTH, OH I GUESS LATE LAST YEAR AND WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE FIRST PHYSICS LAB THAT HE DEVELOPED, I GUESS IT WAS IN THE BASEMENT. - ANSWER: In the basement of McAuliffe. That's right. AND HE SAID IT WAS REALLY QUITE SOMETHING TO DO THEN. And Father Landry, Father Jerry Landry, he had charge of the Chemistry and he had the Chemistry Lab, I think it was in the kitchen of McAuliffe there. Father Landry went from the Prep to the University and then to Boston College and now he's at our Jesuit Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 20 House; he's 89 years old in Boston. Father Langguth is stationed there with him. Father Jim Barry who was the first Student Counselor. Father Jim went from Fairfield Prep to Jamaica where he was in the mission field and he became Superior of Jamaica and he was . - - - - . . . . . . down there for many, many years and--now he's back at our Campion Center, Health Center in Western Massachusetts. So many of those men -- Father Gene Burns, Father Gene left here, he was transferred to go to St. Philip Neary . - -. . - . School in Boston and from there he went to Baghdad and he taught there for some time and then he came back here and he went to Alaska, working up there in Education, in Priestly Education, too. They were tremendous men. QUESTION $39, VHS #1 (0-33-08-01) DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY DESIRE TO BE TRANSFERRED ANYWHERE ELSE? DID YOU EVER LOOK LONGINGLY AT ALL THESE PEOPLE? ANSWER: No, I just accepted God's will; that was it; if He wants me here, this was it. I think at one time I was going to be transferred too, I was told I was going to be transferred to one of our, to be Principals of our of our high schools and the Provincial told me not to mention it to anyone, so I didn't. Then Father Joseph Fitzgerald was the Rector and he came into my office, Student Counselor's Office and he said What did the Provincial say to you?n I said, "1 was going to be Provincial at this particular high scho01.~ And he said, "Well, I'm not going to let you go." So, it Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 21 never went through. QUESTION $40e VHS #1 j0-33-53-20) - NOW;- AS- STUDENT COUNSELOR, WHAT EXACTLY WERE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES? WHAT DID YOU DO IN THAT CAPACITY? ANSWER : Well, for example, if a youngster came into me and was thinking of Pre-Medical and he certainly didn't have any ability in Chemistry and so on, I'd direct him to go into some other course. It would be, I'd have their record in front of me and I'd test them on the Couter Test at the time and their interest and if I found that they didn't have scientific ability, I wouldn't let them go into the area of Science and they appreciated that. If they had ability in languages and so on, I'd direct them into the classical course, but that's what you had to be perceptive enough to know their potential and what they could do because I wouldn't want them to go into pre-medical course in college and flunk out. I interviewed each one of them, the Seniors, in their junior year and then in their senior year and they would tell me all their difficulties regarding their education and so on and I could counsel them. I still keep up contact with them. They've never forgotten it. I remember when I taught in McAuliffe there in Sophomore Year one year and now he's a very prominent surgeon locally and he just went off the classroom, just walked out of the classroom one day, it was on the lower floor and he came back and he had missed a class, Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 22 you know, so I had to put him in what we called llJUG1lt,h at was "Justice Under Godw. I put him in punishment and he's never forgotten it. He still talks about it. Other people locally, the little things that happened with them. - - - - - - - QUESTION $41, VHS #1 (0-35-49-071 DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OTHER INCIDENTS LIKE THAT? ANSWER: I remember one, he's passed on now, a very prominent lawyer, he was brilliant, absolutely brilliant, but his conduct was terrible, so I gave him a "DM in deportment. He said...I met him in the back of McAuliffe and he was crying and I said What's the matter with you?IB And he said "You gave me a IBDN in Deportmentu. I said, "1 could have given you "ZN, but he never forgot that, but had a very brilliant career as a Lawyer, brilliant, and he passed away about 3-4 years ago, no about 5 years ago now. QUESTION $42, VHS fi (0-36-28-15) DID YOU WORK WITH THE STUDENTS HELP TO ADVISE THEM AS TO WHAT COLLEGES THEY OUGHT TO AIM FOR? ANSWER : Yes, that's right. I'd tell them to apply to 3 different colleges of their choice, you see and in those days, the entrances, it wasn't as demanding as it is now. For example, if someone came in to me, I taught at Holy Cross as a scholastic up there and if somebody wanted to go to Holy Cross, as Guidance Counselor I could call up there, the Dean of Freshman and mention the fact and plus the very good record, there'd be no difficulty, he'd Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 23 get in, the sane way as Boston College, the same way as Georgetown and these places, but the whole pattern has changed now because of the demands that are coming in. I was very happy that so many of them, our students, went to the University here. Father Eddie Walsh was in charge of entrance, I think hg was-in-charge, Freshman, maybe it was Father Langguth, but if you'd tell him they had a good record and so on, they would accept it. QUESTION #43, VHS #1 (0-37-39-21) --. WAS-'THERE ANY SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PREP SCHOOL AND THE UNIVERSITY THAT MADE IT ANY EASIER FOR STUDENTS FROM THE PREP TO GET INTO THE UNIVERSITY? ANSWER: Provided they had the ability. If they didn't have the ability we couldn't recommend them, but there's been a good rapport, although as the place has grown now, I think the Prep is more or less, a little in the background now, not in any deliberate way, but with the progression of the University and so on, but our numbers are still up in the people who are coming to the Prep. The applications are still up even though the tuition's very high now. Again, locally, they're high at other private schools in the area too, so I'd like to see, it can't be separated as it is now. I don't understand the whole legality of it, but anyway, it's flourishing. PUESTION $44, VHS fi (0-38-36-28) NOW WHILE YOU WERE STILL GUIDANCE COUNSELOR AND YOU SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY RIGHT THROUGH THE Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 24 ANSmR: 17 years, yes. QUESTION $44 (CTN) DID YOU SEE THE CHANGE BEGIN TO OCCUR SO THAT YOU COULD NO LONGER JUST CALL SOMEONE IN THE UNIVERSITY? ANSWER: There were exams... -- -. OUESTION $44 (CTNI COLLEGE BOARD EXAMS. College Boards. Once they started to become activated and so on, it was a different story because for example, some people don't test well at all even though their academic re- cord is tremendous, they don't test well. That happened to me musically one time because the Good Lord has given me talent in music and we had a music test one time in the course as a Jesuit and I was sitting aside one of our Jesuits who would always sing at any functions and he always went flat, but I could transpose. So, I said to him this night, I said "Here's where 1'11 shine." So, anyway, they gave us the music test and when the results came out, he was in the 89th percentile and I was in the 22nd, so with testing, I didn't have much hope after that, 'cause apparently I didn't test well, even though I had the ability in Music. 9UESTION $45, VHS #1 (0-40-05-02) DO YOU RECALL STUDENTS WHO HAD DONE WELL ACADEMICALLY BUT DIDN'T DO AS WELL ON THE COLLEGE BOARDS AND YOU HAD TO WORK WITH THEM TO HELP THEM DECIDE WHAT TO DO OR WHAT COLLEGE THEY COULD GET INTO? ANSWER: You'd have to write to these different Deans of Admission and explain the situation. It depends, with the Deans of Admission, Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 25 it depends on the numbers that are applying, you see, but it's a very sensitive thing, very sensitive. - PUESTION $46, VHS #1 J0-40-35-18) WOULD YOU BE THE ONE WHO WOULD WRITE THOSE LETTERS? ANSWER: Yes -- or contact them. If they were good benefactors of . ----. the school and the parents were, the student was very, had great potential for achievement, I'd write and let them know. PUESTION #47, VHS (0-40-53-07) WAS FAIRFIELD PREP, DURING THE '50's AND THE '60's FEEDING THE STUDENTS MAINLY INTO CATHOLIC UNIVERSITIES? ANSWER: Yes, at the time because there was...a dictum came out that they should go to their Catholic universities and so and I remember one student with a great sense of humor and came into me and of course we'd tell him that he'd have to apply to a Catholic University and that's the spirit that should carried forth. remember one young man, he's a very prominent businessman now. He came into me and I said "Now what are you planning?" He said, "Ivm going to Southern MethodistN. So I said, "Fine, go to Southern Methodist, but where else are you applying?" He was just kidding me, you know, because Southern Methodist is a very fine college and I certainly would have approved of it, but he finally went to Boston College, but he was baiting me that day. Some of them, a lot of Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 26 them, went all around. They weren't restricted to one, just to Catholic colleges because they went to other colleges at the time. 9UESTION $48, VHS #1 (0-42-12-05) NOW THIS HAS BECOME MORE TRUE -- - OVER THE LAST 15 OR SO YEARS. ANSWER: That's right. SO THAT YOU'VE GOT STUDENTS, I IMAGINE, GOING INTO, I BELIEVE THE IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS. ANSWER: Oh yes, definitely. We neverlooked down on the Ivy League schools, at all, in any way whatsoever, if they wanted to go there, fine. If they had the ability and so on, we certainly would a approve of them. QUESTION $49. VHS #1 10-42-36-05) DURING THIS PERIOD OF THE '50's AND THE '601S, I PRESUME THE REPUTATION OF THE SCHOOL WAS GROWING AS WELL, WAS IT NOT? ANSWER: That's right. The achievements of our students have been a great asset for us here, there's no doubt about it. QUESTION #50, VHS DURING THE PERIOD OF THE '50's AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE YOU BACK A LITTLE BIT, ARE THERE INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED, SPECIAL THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT YOU RECALL IN PARTICULAR, THAT SORT OF STAND OUT IN YOUR MIND? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 27 Regarding ... 9UESTION $50 tCTN1 (0-43-07-161 WAS THERE A SPECIAL EVENT HERE AT THE PREP SCHOOL OR WERE THERE PARTICULAR STUDENTS THAT YOU RECALL, SOMETHING THAT THE GLEE CLUB DID? ANSWER: Let me see. You know whenthey-first opened the Gymnasium over here, all the basketball games, the college basketball, the Father's Club gave a $3,000.00 organ to that gym over there and all the basketball games I'd go over and play the organ like you'd think you were in Madison Square Garden or"some--place. Then the University Glee Club, whenever they were without an accompanist, I'd accompany them you know, accompany the Glee Club and then we had the 25th Anniversary of Prep, which was a big function and we had that in the Campus Center and hundreds came and Father Gannon, God be good to him, he was President of Fordham at the time, was the main speaker. I was the Moderator of that particular event with the Mother's Club and it was a tremendous, tremendous event and there must have been about 400 or 500 people there at the dinner and afterwards there was dancing and so on. So, musically, I would help and at the Prep Graduation and the College graduations, at the beginning I always did the music work for it. I remember one university graduation was over in the field here, the athletic field and we had the stage there at the time, I forget what they call it, but I always remember the first University graduation in 1951. It was the hottest day we could possibly have and Father Rodney McDonald, my Mentor, was in charge of Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 28 arrangements and he hired a band from Bridgeport t o play the march and they played, being a musician I knew the march, the Bay State Commandry was the name of the march, and I knew t h a t the t r i o of t h a t particular march was Adeste Fidelis, the Christmas hymn, so anyway as they marched down with caps and gowns-and-so--on, it must have been 95 and there they were playing I1O Come A l l Y e Faithfull1, so 1'11 never forget t h a t , but then when they got over t o the f i e l d up on the stage, they had the organ there. But the people over the years gave these various instruments and organs'and--pianos and t h a t was where I was part of t h a t . Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 29 a His son, now a Jesuit -- he was teaching at the University. I remember one time they were going to perform at the Waldorf Astoria in New York. I don't know what happened, but something happened because they didn't have an accompanist so they asked me to go down and I went down and played for them, accompanied them there. Father Murray did a tremendous job. 9UESTION $51, VHS #1 (0-46-41-101 WHAT KIND OF MAN WAS MR. HERR1 CK? ANSWER: Mr. Herrick was a charming gentleman, charming gentleman and a very excellent musician and his wife had a beautiful singing voice too. I remember .one occasion she did perform and I accompanied her. PUESTION $52, VHS #1 (0-47-01-221 WHAT WAS IT LIKE PLAYING AT THE WALDORF ASTORIA? ... PLAYING AT THE WALDORF ASTORIA MUST HAVE BEEN QUITE AN EXPERIENCE FOR YOU. ANSWER: It was. It was a great big organ. I forget what the occasion was, but I know they needed someone so Father Murray asked me if I would go down and help which I did. PUESTION 353. VHS j#J 10-47-21-29) WAS THE TYPE OF STUDENT THAT WAS COMING INTO THE PREP, WAS THAT CHANGING AS THE '50's AND '60's WENT ON? WERE THEY DIFFERENT...DID YOU FIND THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PERSON COMING OR WAS IT STILL THE SAME TYPE OF STUDENT THROUGHOUT ALL THE YEARS THAT YOU WERE THERE? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 30 ANSWER: W e l l , the Admissions Committee goes over the thing and i f we found t h a t a youngster j u s t didn't have t h e a b i l i t y , it was foolish t o spend the money, but i f they have the a b i l i t y ... for example, I have a Scholarship Fund over there t h a t was s t a r t e d by friends and alumni and so on and I put the condition down t h a t it would be given t o the son of an alumnus or the son of a benefactor or the grandson of a benefactor who I was aware of because I have a list of names of a l l those people who have given t o the school and r i g h t now I am helping an individual who had 2 brothers a t Prep, a sister a t college and they had a l o t of health problems, the mother died. So I ' m able t o help him. That's what I want t o do. I want t o build up t h a t Scholarship Fund t o help others, too because with the recession now, t h e y ' l l need help and t h a t ' s what I think is so necessary and so charitable and honest. I can never, over the years, I've l i s t e d what I c a l l the Bellarmine Hall of Fame. I have a list of a l l those people who the early years were great benefactors. Great benefactors. I remember one -- Ray Flicker, who owned the Bridgeport Telegram and Post -- he was a great benefactor and h i s grandsons went t o Prep and so on and over the years, a l l those names I have, I w i l l do something for them i f t h e i r grandchildren come along and they need help; t h a t ' s what I think is so e s s e n t i a l because it's so easy t o forget people who have been good t o us, you see. That's why I c a l l it the Bellamine Hall of Fame -- a l l these names because I never want them t o be forgotten. For instance, it's not Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 31 known, I mean, when you bring up names and the people never heard of them and yet they were great benefactors. When you stop and think of it, there was Gonzaga now, there's a painting there in the foyer and it was done locally by an artist -- who knows him? Mr. Riley. They don't know these things. I don't know if they are in the archives or not, but I'll never lose sight of that because there's been such tremendous generosity on the part of people in the area that I never want them forgotten. 9UESTION #54, VHS #J (0-50-23-101 WHAT DO YOU THINK INDUCED SOME OF THESE PEOPLE TO BECOME BENEFACTORS? ANSWER: Well, I think they were interested in Catholic education. I don't say that in a negative way to other education and I think they were interested in the Society of Jesus and then establishing contacts with other people who have had sons go through here and they carried on a tradition. Many of these students who came to us, their fathers had been to our Jesuit colleges; it's been tremendous the way they've supported us you know. QUESTION $55, VHS #J (0-51-01-281 WHAT IS THE TRADITION THIS SCHOOL GIVES ITS STUDENTS? ANSWER: Well, the Jesuit tradition -- the greater honor and glory of God -- that's why we're in business and the Jesuit ideal as Ignatius pointed out to us is the importance of not their intellectual growth but their spiritual growth with almighty God Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 32 which is so important. That's our whole vocation to have their lives become of great value. Recently there was one of our graduates in the Class of '48 who was playing golf in Florida and dropped dead and I preached at his funeral mass and his father was a very great, generous benefactor and his father had passed on and his brother, who went to this school had passed on, so I keep up that contact because I don't want the families to think they were forgotten. It's an interest and a dedication that to me is very blessed. Oral History: Thomas.Murphy, S.J. Page 33 QUESTION #56. VHS u (0-52-12-11) DID THE SPIRITUAL FOCUS OF THE PREP SCHOOL CONTINUE AS STRONG DURING THE '60's AND '701S? ANSWER: No. No. It's a different pattern. In the early years, we had a beautiful chapel in ~c~uliffe,-beautiful chapel and we had first Friday devotions -- the Sacred Heart and then during the year we had the Sodality of our Blessed Mother and that would be a weekly meeting -- all spiritual dedication to our Blessed Mother. Then during the month of October, we'd say the Rosary decades of the Rosary before every class and then during the month of May, we'd have May shrines in all the classrooms. The one who had the best, we'd give them a prize, but every year, we had our annual retreats and weld have different Jesuits come from out of town to give three-day • retreat to the school, the different year separately. Then when I was the Student's Counselor, I took them up to our Retreat House in Monroe, New York for three days, each section of the Senior Class and it was a tremendous blessing for them and they liked it very much. I don't think it's gone because they still have a retreat in some form for the students. Then we'd have daily mass too for them over there, so I'm not as aware of it now as I was when I was in that particular job. QUESTION $57, VHS u (0-53-56-24) DO YOU THINK THAT THERE HAS BECOME LESS EMPHASIS --DID YOU SEE LESS EMPHASIS ON THAT ASPECT OF THE.. . . .3 ANSWER: We don't have it as we used to have it, you see. I don't Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S. J. Page 34 want to be negative, but we don't have it as we used to have it which I would like to have seen renewed, but the whole approach is entirely different. QUESTION # 58, VHS #I. (0-54-24-171 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? ANSWER: Well, for example, when we had the first Friday Devotions, we'd go over to McAuliffe, Loyola Chapel and we'd have mass for them and we'd all receive Holy Communion and then they'd have the Sacrament of Reconciliation the day before and all the priests would be there. That has gone. It isn't as it used to be. To some extent it is existent, but not as prominently as before. It's not a question of being negative, but it's a question of being factual. 9UESTION $59, VHS #1 (0-55-09-021 WAS THE PREP SCHOOL AFFECTED AT ALL BY THE TURMOIL THAT WENT ON AT THE UNIVERSITY DURING THE '60's AND EARLY '70 IS? ANSWER: No, no we weren't. But the University had that turmoil. We didn't have that. We didn't have that at all, thank God. QUESTION $60, VHS #1 (0-55-23-291 YOU SERVED AS DIRECTOR OF ALUMNI RELATIONS IN THE '60's AND '701S? a ANSWER: I did. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 35 DO YOU STILL CONTINUE? WHAT WERE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES IN THAT? ANSWER: Well, it would be first of all looking up lost alumni which I enjoyed very much and keeping up contact with them and then running the annual reunions every year and then sending them letters, announcements, having the Phone-A-Thon. It was very interesting work because and I'd hear from them frequently during the course of the year and it was keeping up. For example, this morning, now I read the paper and from the Death Notices, I noticed that the parents of two of our alumni had passed away, so immediately I called up the office and gave the data and I said, ''Send a card to the family and put my name on it.!! That's what my job really is now -- keeping up contact and the two men were of the Class of ' 4 9 . I looked up that and I'm aware of it and that's what I like to do. QUESTION $61, VHS #1 (0-56-36-021 WHEN YOU WERE DIRECTOR OF ALUMNI RELATIONS, DID YOU GET INVOLVED WITH FUND RAISING AT ALL? ANSWER: Yes. We would and the alumni would be very generous, very generous in the very functions that we'd have. The Phon-a-Thons's they'd be very good, but of course, right now, it's the recession. PUESTION $62, VHS #1 (0-57-27-01) WAS THAT THE MAIN FUND RAISING a ACTWITY, THE PHON-A-THON? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S..J. Page 36 @ ANSWER: That's right and then we'd have a football night out here and the alumni would come and we'd raise money on that. QUESTION $62 (CTN). WHILE THE PREP SCHOOL IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE UNIVERSITY, ALTHOUGH IT'S SEPARATE, BUT IT'S PART. ANSWER: No, I don't think it's part. IT'S NOT PART, IT IS SEPARATE. Separate. QUESTION $63. VHS (0-57-27-011 IS THERE SOMEONE WHO IS BASICALLY THE ADMINISTRATOR OVER THE PREP SCHOOL? ANSWER:The Headmaster. AND HAS THERE BEEN A HEADMASTER SINCE THE BEGINNING? Since the beginning. Yes. There have been many of them. DO YOU RECALL ANY OF THEM IN PARTICULAR? Sure, I do. The listings of the Past Presidents, the past Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 37 Headmasters, Father Leo Riley, Father Walter Kennedy, Father Frank Cardy, Father Joseph McGrady, .Father Ed Fain, Father A1 Morris, Father Bob Start, Tim McGuillicudy was an Acting Principal, Father Powers, Father Boler, Father Eugene O'Brien, Father Charles Allen and now Father Aramon. PUESTION $64, VHS (0-58-32-121 CAN I TAKE YOU BACK TO SOME OF THEM AND ASK YOU ABOUT SOME OF THEM? -.- - ANSWER: Sure. Father Leo Riley was the first Principal. He was very tremendous in the first years. 9UESTION $64 (CTNI THIS WAS DURING THE I4O1,ST HAT HE WAS PRINCIPAL? He was Principal in l42, '42 to I45 and Leo established a great regime in the Prep School -- wonderful. He was a very good leader and very level headed, knew what he was doing all the time, very perceptive, I thought. 9UESTION $65, VHS (0-59-12-19) NOW WHEN YOU SAY THAT HE ESTABLISHED A GOOD REGIME, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? ANSWER: Well, because we had confidence in his ability, we had confidence in his ability to run the school which was very, very essential. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 38 9UESTION $66, VHS u (0-59-24-281 DID HE ESTABLISH VARIOUS PROCEDURES AND SO FORTH? ANSWER: He would, like office examinations and so on and things like that. He would go, which was a good thing and was carried on when I was Assistant Principal and at her ~ e aolw ays went around to observe the teachers while they were teaching. If there were defects, he would bring them out and that was a tradition that we had which was very essential. He would do that because if he got complaints from parents regarding the teacher, then he'd go and observe and that was very, very excellent I thought. As Assistant Principal, I used to do that to. We were supposed to do it and it's a very, very wonderful idea because we have to e check to see if they are messing up in certain presentations. 9UESTION 367, VHS u (1-00-22-071 NOW WHEN YOU SAY THAT HE ESTABLISHED OFFICE EXAMINATIONS, WHAT WERE THEY? ANSWER: For instance, we'd have Section A, B, C, D, E, and F -- Freshmen. He'd give an Office Examination in Latin and now if I taught Section D, my class would take the examination. Section A might correct it, then he could established the efficiency of the teachers. Or Section F, perhaps Section F wasn't doing as well as Section B and so on, then he'd have his hand on the pulse of things. 9UESTION $68. VHS 11-01-04-01) NOW WHEN YOU SAY SOMETIMES PARENTS USED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT A TEACHER, HOW WOULD THEY KNOW THAT Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 39 THE TEACHER WASN'T DOING AS GOOD A JOB -- THE STUDENT WOULD GO HOME AND TELL THEM? ANSWER : Yes. You know the way they might be critical of them. Then the parents would call up and come in for a consultation. I know that there are, when I was Assistant Principal, there was one youngster who just would not adjust, he was defying the teacher and I just dismissed him from the school. I had to do it because he was giving great disedification to the other students in the classroom, so I said "This is the fact, you're just not living up to what you're supposed to do." So I let him go. You had to do it, disciplinewise; otherwise, the whole spirit would get down. QUESTION $69. VHS #1 (1-01-56-201 WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED FREQUENTLY? 0 ANSWER: Oh, no, no, no. It did not happen frequently. And then the parents would come in and they might say 'IWell, how come my son was not getting a good mark in English?" You'd have the data there to tell them that he wasn't doing his homework, he wasn't applying himself and so on. You had to establish an honest rapport w i t h t h e m in every w a y . PUESTION 4 70, VHS #1 (1-02-30-18) HOW MUCH HOMEWORK APPROXIMATELY DID THE STUDENTS GET EVERY DAY? ANSWER: Well, we wanted them to do at least 2 hours1 homework at night, 3 because you know...the point is this if you gave them enough homework, you're going to have less problems with them as they exist Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 40 today, I mean, in general. 9UESTION $71. VHS fi (1-02-48-22) WHAT TIME DID THE SCHOOL DAY START IN THE MORNING? HOW LONG A DAY WAS IT USUALLY? ANSWER : It started from 9 to 2:15. QUESTION $72, VHS fi (1-02-59-221 THERE WERE ACTIVITIES, I TAKE IT, AFTER THAT. ANSWER: 2:15 and the Athletic activities and all the other extra-curricular activities, so they'd be here-until about 4 o'clock. Then there'd be a bus that would pick them up, take them home. LET'S JUST GO ON WITH A FEW MORE OF THE PRINCIPALS. Father Walter Kennedy -- he was 1945 to 1951. He's passed on too. QUESTION fl3, VHS (1-03-24-21) DO YOU RECALL HIM AT ALL? ANSWER: Oh sure. He was in my class in the Jesuits. He was the first Principal in Berchmans and he did a very fine job. He came out of the Army; he had been a Chaplin, so he was in command and you knew it, but very kind man, very good rapport with the faculty, very good and the students liked him very much. QUESTION $74, VHS fi (1-03-55-06) WHAT SIZE WAS THE STUDENT BODY AROUND THAT .TIME? ANSWER : Maybe about, I'd say, must be about 700 anyway. I stand open to question; it might be more. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 41 9UESTION #75, VHS #1 (1-05-05-09) THERE WERE 4 GRADES HERE, 9, 10, 11, 12? ANSWER : Yes. And then we had Father Frank Cardy. He was here for 8 years and Frank did a fine job, too. Very good spirit and very fine in his relationship to the faculty and the students. Then Father A1 Morris -- he had been a scholastic here and then came back to us, then he was teaching, then he was made Principal. A1 has passed on and he was a very kind man and had a good relationship with the faculty and also with the parents and thought very well of, you know, in the area too and people remember him very well. A1 has passed on too. 9UESTION $76, VHS #1 (1-05-05-09) WHEN DID YOU SERVE AS ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL? ANSWER: I think it was '47 to '50. Oh no, it might have been '48 to '50. '48 to '50 I think it was. 9UESTION $77, VHS #1 (1-05-16-26) , DID YOU ENJOY,THAT ROLE? DID YOU LIKE THAT? ANSWER: No. I said to the Provincial that it wasn't my ... 'cause you're t~roubleshooting, either with the parents, the kids or the faculty and I said that's not my style. I didn't like it as well as when I went into Student Counsel and Academic Counseling, I enjoyed Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. 'Page 42 a it very much. But the other one with the responsibility was just in McAuliffe and then Father Kennedy was in Berchmans and we had a great friendliness between us, but it wasn't my style; I didn't enjoy it as much as I did teaching or counseling. So I asked out of that which -- they took me out. QUESTION #78, VHS u (1-06-06-05) WAS IT IMPORTANT FOR THE HEADMASTER TO HAVE A GOOD RAPPORT WITH THE PARENTS AND TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY? ANSWER: Oh definitely, definitely -- that's part of their job. And if you're passive and so on and don't have a rapport with them, it's just unfortunate because you've got to have that rapport and you've got to establish a good relationship with people and friendliness because if you're going to be passive, they'll say forget about it. QUESTION #79, VHS u (1-06-32-15) I IMAGINE YOU ALSO HAVE TO.HAVE A CERTAIN ABILITY TO RAISE MONEY TOO. ANSWER: That's right because that's part of the Headmaster's job. 9UESTION $79 (CTN). WERE PEOPLE DURING THE '501S, WERE THEY FAIRLY FORTHCOMING WITH DONATIONS? They were. They were very, very generous I thought and that's what I say -- all those benefactors. What the parents have done has been a tremendous factor. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 43 QUESTION $80. VHS #1 (1-06-59-051 ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THE PARENTS HAVE DONE BESIDES JUST DONATING MONEY FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW? . -- . - - - - ANSWER : Well I remember the Mother's Club one time in Berchmans raised money to put up new drapes over there in the cafeteria and also what they did -- we had a small chapel in Berchmans and they donated money to put statues in Berchmans in the chapel and also up in McAuliffe, there was a benefactor who gave a big organ up there for the chapel and also parents of two students who had passed on, they gave beautiful statues up there, so this has been going on over the years and these people can never be forgotten @ because the Mother's Club and the Father's Club, what they have done for the athletic field here has been tremendous. QUESTION $81, VHS #1 11-08-00-04) WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELD? ANSWER: Well, they raised money to make that new baseball field over there and also you know, the Prep did it and it was the Prep field. I remember Father Jim Leffler, one of our men, he was the one who did all the ground work to establish our first football field over there and it was the Prep Field and now they call it Alumni Field. It is the Prep actually and I don't say that in a negative Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 44 way, but I don't want the Prep to be forgotten in that regard because it's been very essential to this Fairfield community, that Prep was established. - -- -- --. QUESTION $82, VHS #1 (1-08-47-031 I GET A SENSE THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED THAT THE PREP MAY BE FORGOTTEN A LITTLE BIT. ANSWER: I am a little. ---.a THAT THE UNIVERSITY MAY BE OVERSHADOWING THE PREP SCHOOL. Sometimes. I don't want it to happen, but I don't want the Prep ever to be forgotten. It's been my whole life, my 50 years, I'm on my 50th year now and knowing what all these people have accomplished for us, I don't want it to be pushed in the background at all. Years ago, under .Father Dolan, he -a sked me if I wanted to go and teach in the University and the first year I said "No, I prefer to stay and work at that age level of the high school peoplew, which is a tremendous challenge and which I liked very much. So, my whole concern and my whole interest has been with the Prep and I never want it to be put in the'back seat in any way whatsoever because it is Fairfield as far as I am concerned and the University has been tremendous. God has blessed us tremendously with the development of the University, but with that development, we can't forget the Prep. Now it's unusual now, they have all these plaques around the campus now, 50th Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 45 anniversary of the University, but nothing about the Prep. But anyway, we have a flag over in the quadrangle for the Prep Anniversary too. QUESTION $83, VHS #1 (1-10-26-08) ARE ALL THE FACULTY AT THE PREP JESUIT FACULTY? ANSWER: There are 14 of us there. SO THERE ARE NO LAY FACULTY AT ALL? ANSWER: Oh, many, about 44. 9UESTION #83 (CTN). (OH I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. WHEN DID THE CHANGE BEGIN, I MEAN, WHEN DID LAY FACULTY BEGIN COMING IN TO THE PREP SCHOOL? ANSWER: Well, because our vocations have dropped down in numbers you see. We had many more Jesuits then and so many of those Principals that passed on now and so many have passed on and we don't have the numbers coming in, it's the same way with the University and so we have to get the lay people, the lay teachers to come in and you've got to pay them well to, so that's why your tuition goes up and so on, but there's a need. Let me see, if we had 14 teaching, some were in Administration. 9UESTION $84, VHS #1 (1-11-23-16) DID THE CHARACTER OF THE PREP SCHOOL CHANGE AT ALL WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF MORE AND MORE LAY FACULTY? ANSWER: No, I don't think so because they understand what our mission in as ~esuits and we let them know what they are to achieve Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 46 according to our ideals and our norms. 9UESTION 4 85, VHS #1 11-11-47-22) ARE THERE ANY OTHER TEACHERS THAT STAND OUT OTHER THAN HEADMASTERS THAT YOU TAUGHT WITH, IN PARTICULAR? ANSWER: Father O'Neill, who is the Dean of Men at the College now was at the Prep School. He taught as a Scholastic and then later on, he was the Dean of Discipline and also he was a Student Counselor too at one time and then there are others that I'm just trying to think of who have gone on. I mentioned Father Landry and Father Langguth and Father Berry. I'm just trying to recall some of those great men we had. It's. not coming as quickly as I want. 9UESTION $86. VHS #1 11-12-52-171 I NOTICED YOU HAD THAT SHEET OF PAPER YOU BROUGHT WITH YOU AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE OTHER THINGS ON THERE THAT WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS? ANSWER: I mentioned that it was during the first Commencement Week of the University the program listed the planting of a Dogwood Tree on the right side of the walk leading from Berchmans up to McAuliffe and the tree is still there, fully grown and healthy and at the ceremony, a senior college student who was a graduate of Prep, gave the inspiring address there -- Bob Fitzpatrick. I remember that day because his mother and father were great workers and great benefactors of the Prep School. His mother was once the President of Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 47 the Bellarmine Guild and his father was President of the Father's Club, so Bob gave that particular address and I still remember that very much, very well. QUESTION $87, VHS #1 (1-14-05-20) DID-MOST OF THE STUDENTS FROM THE FIRST FEW GRADUATING CLASSES AT THE PREP, ONCE THE UNIVERSITY HAD OPENED ITS DOORS, DID THEY GO ON TO FAIRFIELD UNIVERSITY BY AND LARGE? ---- ANSWER: The first graduating class? QUESTION $88, VHS #1 (1-14-17-01) NO, NOT THE FIRST BECAUSE I KNOW THE UNIVERSITY WASN'T HERE THEN, BUT BY THE TIME THE LATE '40's OR EARLY '501S, DID MOST OF THE PREP STUDENTS GO ON TO THE UNIVERSITY? ANSWER: They did, they really did. I think I mentioned Bellarmine Hall where we lived, it was the Hearthstone, it was the Fairfield Prep Yearbook and that's after the Hearthstone up in Bellarmine Hall, up in the Lasher Estate and that's how it got the name, the Hearthstone. There was a group up there, living up there, I remember at the time of the War I lived on the second floor facing the Sound and we had to put heavy drapes over the windows so we couldn't be seen from the shore, from the water. We had one car then, too and we had to use it, with the shortness of gas, if we had to go downtown, we'd have to walk those days. THINGS MUST HAVE BEGUN TO CHANGE GRADUALLY I GUESS AS TIME WENT ON . ANSWER : Oh they did, they did. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 48 QUESTION $89, VHS #1 (1-15-31-22) LOOKING BACK ON ALL THE YEARS YOU WERE AT THE PREP, WHAT DO YOU REGARD AS YOUR MOST IMPORTANT ACCOMPLISHMENT, YOUR LEGACY TO THE PREP? ANSWER: Well what I've ... my own Jesuit life has been tremendous here because it's been my life. Now I'm on my 50th year and my teaching and my contact with the people and my musical work because and I've gone out to do a lot of parish work too, giving lenten courses and Novenas and I've gone all over the country giving retreats to various religious orders. It's been a spiritual work and then the music...what I do musically, I go around to various nursing homes now and play for them for a little Sing-A-Long because it gets them out of themselves, you see, so my whole life here has been one blessed event in my whole life which I'd never wanted otherwise because I have thoroughly enjoyed it in every way. At times, it hasn't been easy, but nevertheless the Good Lord gives us the grace to carry on so that's what I'm trying to do. But musically I've been able to do a lot for the school and spiritually I have. Many of these young men that I've mentioned entered the Seminary and I keep up contact with them. I remember when Bishop Sheehan was here. He had me give spiritual conferences to all the seminarians once a week in the summertime, so it's been an involvement with education and spiritual work and so on and it's been wonderful. I've enjoyed it very much. PUESTION $90, VHS #1 (1-17-38-06) WERE THERE ANY DIFFICULT PERIODS Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 49 HERE THAT YOU RECALL, ANY OBSTACLES THAT HAD TO BE OVERCOm, PROBLEMS THAT YOU ALL HAD TO FACE TOGETHER? ANSWER : They weren't serious problems. It was the pioneering. I remember we couldn't get home to visit our folks too much in those days. I remember the fare to ~ostonat-that time was $4.57 one way and we'd get home about once a year and so on, which was fine because our work was down here and so on. The other obstacles we had to do - - we never had to do with them now -- we didn't live in as nice a setting that we have at the present timeL-down in the Ignatius House, but we lived it. As I mentioned, on the top of Berchmans, even thought we lived up there we had to go up to Bellarmine for our meals and for all our spiritual conferences and that was it, you just accepted it and went. Then you'd be assigned every Friday night to help in some parish, which meant that you had to go to New Fairfield and Old Saybrook and all around you took those things in stride, which meant that your weekends were just occupied from Saturday afternoon to Sunday afternoon and you'd come back to start your teaching, so it was constant, but that was the way it was. Looking back, it was interesting, but it wasn't negative. It was different than what we have at the present time because the place has grown so. 9UESTION $91, VHS #J. (1-19-30-26L WERE YOU ALWAYS TEACHING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME COURSES OR DID YOU TAKE ON NEW RESPONSIBILITIES? ANSWER: Oh, I taught Freshmen and then I taught Sophomore Latin Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 50 and English. Then when I was the Student Counselor and Academic Counselor, I taught Religion to all the Senior classes, so I had that along with my counseling, I did all the Religion teaching too. QUESTION $92, VHS #1 (1-20-02-23)- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PREP TODAY? DO YOU FEEL IT'S AS STRONG AS EVER, HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? ANSWER: It's a little different, but things are different, patterns have changed and I don't say that-negatively, but I'm not as aware as I would be if I were up there every day. It's a different ball game in some ways you see and the approach is a little different, but again, things change, but that hasn't changed our own Jesuit ideals, what we're supposed to do. But the lay teachers and @ there are so many of them and they are fine people, but it's a different thing. I don't say that negatively at all, but I think we need good friendly relationships in every Headmaster to establish good rapport, not only with us, but with the people, the teachers and so on; that's very essential because there have been some tremendously devoted people presently to the Prep. I still have contacts with the Bellarmine Guild and I try to get to their monthly meetings, but they're just very enthused about the school which is a great thing. QUESTION $93, VHS #1 (1-21-28-16) ARE MOST OF THE STUDENTS, THE MAJORITY OF GRADUATES STILL GOING ON TO FAIRFIELD UNIVERSITY? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 51 ,WE,: Oh no, no, I don't think so. It depends...so many of them, it depends financially I think, their f.inancia1 resources. THAT'S FXNE. Terrific. You edit this thing? .It's 11 o'clock. I thought it was . .- - - -- about. ... . TIME MOVES ALONG VERY QUICKLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS. -ANSWER: I booed at some things, but you edit the thing. WE CAN EASILY DO THAT. - .- There's a list of all these. A nice 'history of the Prep here. WHO WROTE THAT? ANSWER: It was in the Prep ... Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 52
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Title | Murphy, Rev. Thomas A., S.J. - Oral History (transcript) |
Originating Office | Fairfield University Media Center |
Date | March 22 1992 |
Description | The Fairfield University Oral History Collection consist of interviews with the founders, professors, administrators, and many others who play a key role in the history and development of Fairfield University. |
Notes | Father Murphy came to Fairfield College Preparatory School in 1943 as a teacher of Latin, English, public speech and religion as well as the school’s Musical Director. An accomplished musician, Father Murphy organized the Glee Club and orchestra, and composed the music for the Prep Fight Song as well as the Alma Mater. In 1947, Father Murphy was appointed Assistant Principal of Fairfield Prep, a position he held until 1950. From 1950 to 1967, Father Murphy held the position of Student Counselor, also serving as Vocational Guidance Director for seniors and juniors. From 1967 until 1977, Father Murphy served as the school’s Director of Alumni Relations and Moderator of the Bellarmine Guild. Father Murphy retired in 1977 as Director Emeritus of Alumni Relations. After his official retirement, Father Murphy continued to play cocktail piano music, and in 1984 he produced an album of popular songs called “At the Piano with Father Tom.” The album earned him television performances on the Joe Franklin Show and NBC’s The Prime of Your Life and its proceeds went to the Bellarmine Guild at Fairfield. |
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SearchData | Fairfield University Oral History Transcripts ------------------------------------------------------------------ Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J. Assistant Principal, Fairfield College Preparatory School; Musical Director; Director Emeritus, Alumni Relations March 23, 1992 Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J. a brief biography “I thought it was a terrific challenge. It was wonderful, because it was really pioneering and we had to face the facts that we had to do a lot of work. We went out every weekend helping out in parishes locally because we needed to help the financial support of the community, but it was a very challenging and wonderful experience. I'd go through it again -- pioneering -- because there's one thing that I remember most forcefully. The wonderful support on the part of the parents… The parents were most helpful to us and that's why I never want them to be forgotten.” Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J., was born October 8, 1906 in Brockton, Massachusetts. He attended St. Patrick’s Parochial School in 1912 and then Boston College High School from 1920 to 1924. He earned a B.A. from Boston College in 1928. Father Murphy grew up learning to play the piano, organ and violin, playing at such Brockton, Massachusetts movie theatres as the Brockton, Strand, and Rialto. “I played the organ at the old silent movies,” he said. “That’s how I paid my way through college.” He entered the Society of Jesus at Shadowbrook in Lenox, Massachusetts on August 14, 1928. Father Murphy received his M.A. in Philosophy from Weston College in Weston, Massachusetts in 1934. He taught philosophy and English at the College of the Holy Cross from 1934 to 1936, and then studied theology at Weston College from 1936 to 1940. After being ordained a priest on June 17, 1939 and spending his Tertian year at Pomfret, Connecticut, Father Murphy was assigned to St. Mary’s Parish in Boston in 1941. In February 1943, Father Murphy came to Fairfield College Preparatory School as a teacher of Latin, English, public speech and religion as well as the school’s Musical Director. At this time, a total of 300 students were enrolled at the school, attending classes in McAullife Hall. An accomplished musician, Father Murphy organized the Glee Club and orchestra, and composed the Prep Fight Song as well as the Alma Mater to accompany words written by his colleague Rev. John H. Kelly, S.J. In 1947, Father Murphy was appointed Assistant Principal of Fairfield Prep, a position he held until 1950. Also in 1947, Father Murphy witnessed first-hand the signing of the charter which established the newly created Fairfield University by Governor Raymond Baldwin in Hartford, Connecticut. From 1950 to 1967, Father Murphy held the position of Student Counselor, also serving as Vocational Guidance Director for seniors and juniors. From 1967 until 1977, Father Murphy served as the school’s Director of Alumni Relations and Moderator of the Bellarmine Guild. He also worked closely with the Bellarmine Father’s Club and was Moderator of the Sodality of Our Lady, as well as being a retreat master on numerous occasions. Father Murphy retired in 1977 as Director Emeritus of Alumni Relations. After his official retirement, Father Murphy continued to play cocktail piano music at the Center for Financial Studies at Fairfield University, the Black Rock Yacht Club for sing-a-longs and also for retired people at nursing homes. In 1984 he produced an album of popular songs called “At the Piano with Father Tom,” which included numbers like “Over the Rainbow,” “Danny Boy,” and “Bells are Ringing.” The album earned him television performances on the Joe Franklin Show and NBC’s The Prime of Your Life and its proceeds went to the Bellarmine Guild at Fairfield. In 1992, Father Murphy was honored for his years of dedicated service with a 50th Anniversary Jubilee Medal. Later a plaque with his name was erected in his honor by Fairfield College Preparatory School. Sources: Public Relations Files, Folder “Rev. Thomas A. Murphy, S.J.,” Fairfield University Archives and Special Collections. Photograph: Fairfield University Manor, 1958. WARNING CONCERNING COPYRIGHT RESTRICTIONS The copyright law of the United States (Title 17, U.S. Code) governs the making of photocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material. Under certain conditions specified by law, libraries and archives are authorized to furnish a photocopy or other reproduction. One of these specified conditions is that the photocopy or reproduction is not to be used for any purpose other than private study, scholarship, or research. As a component of the library and archives of Fairfield University, the mission of this database is to provide relevant information pertaining to the history of Fairfield University. It is expected that use of this document will be for informational and non-commercial use only, that the document will not be re-copied or re-posted on any other network computer or broadcast in any other media, and that no modifications of any kind will be made to the document itself. If electronic transmission of this material is used for purposes in excess of what constitutes “fair use,” that user may be liable for copyright infringement. Use for purposes other than private study, scholarship, or research is expressly prohibited. Please note: the cover page, biography and copyright statement are not part of the original transcript document. INTERVIEW WITH FATHER THOMAS MURPHY April, 1992 QUESTION $1, VHS u 10-00-00-00) WHAT WAS HERE THEN WHEN YOU FIRST -. -- ARRIVED? ANSWER : There was McAuliffe Hall and ~ellarmine Hall. Those were the two places on the campus and we lived in Bellarmine and then we'd have to walk over to McAuliffe, across every day and there were a lot . of woods around at that time and we'd walk down. in the morning and have to go through a fence to walk up to McAuliffe and we'd teach up there. It was very primitive and so on. It was a very interesting thing. The Parents, the Father's Club raised money to build a road to connect the two properties. That was a great asset for us because @ that meant that we didn't have to jump through the fence, through the woods, to get up to McAuliffe, so it was very wonderful, very 'primitive, but we loved it. 9UESTION $2, VHS fi (0-00-56-231 WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE ORIGINALLY WHEN YOU FIRST CAME? HOW DID YOU FIRST COME TO BE HERE? ANSWER: Well, I was supposed to have gone on and do graduate studies and I was supposed to go on to the Missions and that was changed so then they sent me to St. Mary's Church in Boston. I was supposed to have gone for a Doctoral Degree in Music, but the war broke out, so I went to St. Mary's Parish in Boston, a Jesuit church there and did a lot of preaching and then they were going to have me :@ go on and study preaching for two years and then I received a letter from the Provincial, Father Dolan, asking me t o accept a quick change t o F a i r f i e l d Prep. I said "Where's F a i r f i e l d Prep?'' So I came down here on February 15, 1943 and I took over a freshman class. I taught Latin and English, Theology and then they organized the musical t a l e n t in the school, an orchestra and glee club. Then Father John Kelly, who was the Prefect of Discipline, he was very clever a t words for songs, so one evening I s t a r t e d playing the piano and he and I composed the Prep Fight Song, the Prep Alma Mater. He wrote the words and I did the music, so t h a t was in '43 and I've been here ever since. Over the years a f t e r teaching, I was made Assistant Principal for two years in McAuliffe a t the t i m e because Berchmans was opened a t t h a t t i m e and then a f t e r t h a t , I was made the Student Counselor, Guidance Counselor. I was the only Guidance Counselor a t t h a t time i n 1947, it was. That was in Berchmans a t the t i m e . And then because the school had grown so and the faculty had grown, when they b u i l t Berchmans, the top floor was supposed t o be a Physics Lab and a Chemistry Lab, but we needed more room for J e s u i t s s o they made living quarters up there for us -- 14 of u s l i v e d up there -- and it so happened that I lived there for 32 years. QUESTION $3, VHS (0-03-22-00) I N 1943, WAS THAT THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PREP SCHOOL? ANSWER: That's r i g h t . It opened in September of 1942 and the f i r s t graduation was '43 of people who had transferred t o the school. There w e r e about 8 or 9 who graduated t h a t year. I forget the exact number you know. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 2 a QUESTION $4, VHS u j0-03-42-01) NOW WHERE'DID THEY GO AFTER GRADUATION --ON TO COLLEGE? ANSWER: They went to college and some of them had to go into the Service .- and so on. It was very interesting and many of them have passed on now, but I've tried to keep up contact with them over the years. QUESTION $5, VHS u (0-03-58-11) WHERE WERE THE STUDENTS FROM AT THE BEGINNING --RIGHT AROUND HERE, OR...? ANSWER: Well, some of them came from New Haven, but most of them were local, either from Bridgeport and Stamford and Fairfield and Norwalk. 9UESTION $6, VHS 10-04-15-01) IT MUST HAVE BEEN KIND OF STRANGE, I WOULD IMAGINE TO BE TEACHING STUDENTS WHO YOU KNEW WERE GOING TO GO INTO THE SERVICE AND MAY NEVER HAVE SURVIVED THE WAR. ANSWER: Well, see, I taught the Freshmen and though they were actually in their last year of high school at the time, so I didn't know them at the time, but some of our Jesuits, Father Eugene Burns taught them and he taught French and Latin and so on, but they met all the requirements if they wanted to go to college. It was very exacting at the time. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 3 QUESTION $7, VHS (0-04-48-04L HOW DID YOU SORT OF FEEL ABOUT BEING HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS? ANSWER : Oh, I thought it was a terrific challenge. It was wonderful, because it was really pioneering and we had to face the facts that we had to do a lot of work. We went out every weekend helping out in parishes locally because we needed to help the financial support of the community, but it was a very challenging and wonderful experience. I'd go through it--again -- pioneering -- because there's one thing that I remember most forcefully. The wonderful support on the part of the parents. Mrs. Ellen Gilhuly who just received a medal for the 50th, our 50th year medal, she founded the Bellannine Guild and they raised money for the school. She had a $10 Club and they raised enough money so that we could put in a Physics Lab at the Prep School in McAuliffe. The parents were most helpful to us and that's why I never want them to be forgotten because as I told you, the Father's Club raised money to build a new road connecting the property and Mrs. Gilhuly started a Mother's Club and it's gone on now for 50 years -- most supportive over those years. QUESTION $8, VHS ~ (0-06-16-03) HOW DID THESE CLUBS GET STARTED? ANSWER : Well, they were all the parents of the students and that's the way they started. They had a monthly meeting -- I think on the 3rd Wednesday of each month and was very helpful to us. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 4 QUESTION $9, VHS u (0-06-36-18) DID YOU GO AND ATTEND THE MEETINGS OR SPEAK AT THE MEETINGS? ANSWER: Father Barry, James Barry, he was the Chaplain and Father Jim went to Jamaica and so I took over then-as the Chaplain of the Bellmarmine Guild. We'd have a group in Bridgeport, a group in Stamford, a group in Norwalk and a group in New Haven, so they'd have their monthly meetings, but then it was brought in to have one group only in Bridgeport and they'd come to the-meetings, but they were most supportive over the years, running Bridge parties and running style shows and all this business, whatever they had to raise money for us, you know. QUESTION $10. VHS u (0-07-23-16) HOW DID YOU DECIDE WHAT THE MONEY SHOULD BE RAISED FOR? ANSWER: Well that was up to the Rector at the time. We had nothing to do with that, unless they designated for some particular thing. It was a great help because we really needed financial help at the time. Our tuition that first year was $100, plus a $5.00 Activi.ty Fee and we had 19 Jesuits he-re and so we just took things in stride. Oral History: Thomas -Murphy, S.J. Page 5 QUESTION $11. VHS fi (0-07-52-181 HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE HERE I N THE EARLY YEARS? ANSWER: I think about, maybe a t the beginning about 300 I think. I stand open t o question about t h a t . It grew as the things went on, you know. I think an i n t e r e s t i n g ... the words of the Prep Song, which Father Kelly wrote, "in '42 the world was blue and needed something ... something new, something t z ' r e v i v e its f a l t e r i n g steps and someone got the inspiration and shouted out t o a l l the nation what w i l l ease the s i t u a t i o n , F a i r f i e l d College Prep.'' So he wrote t h a t and we made copies of it and we sold it and so on, so it was raising money. It was a l l the question of raising money f o r t h e needs of the school. 9UESTION $12, VHS fi (0-08-42-28) WAS THERE ALWAYS THE SENSE THAT ASIDE FROM THE PREP THERE EVENTUALLY WOULD BE A COLLEGE HERE AS WELL? ANSWER : I wasn't aware of it a t t h a t t i m e , but as Father Dolan came in, he told us about the plans. It's very, very i n t e r e s t i n g . They got the charter f o r t h e University and there was a lawyer, Gaynor Brennan, who's passed on from Stamford. He had two sons a t Prep and h i s brother, B i l l , was a big man on the Republican Party in Connecticut and Gaynor, through h i s influence, was able t o get the charter, so when the charter came, I went up with Father Dolan and Gaynor Brennan, f i r s t of a l l t o Wesleyan University where ~ i l b u r Snow, the Lt. Governor, signed it and then we went up t o the State House where Governor Baldwin signed the charter and I was with Father Oral History: Thomas ' Murphy, S .J. Page 6 Dolan. I saw Father Dolan sign that charter and it was a very memorable occasion and that was around, I think '45, that happened and then the University started in '47 because first of all, he was very progressive and having had a lot of business experience, he put up Berchmans Hall. Very interesting about Berchmans...it was during the time of the War and to get permission was'very, very difficult and he had applied and it didn't look too hopeful. I had a brother Morris Murphy who was in Washington on the W.P.B. and it was through his influence, too, that the permission came through to put up Berchmans, so it was very successful. Then the University occupied the first floor of Berchmans when they opened. QUESTION $13, VHS (0-10-40-241 WHAT KIND OF BUILDING WAS BERCHMANS? I MEAN, WERE YOU INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING FOR IT, OR THE ACTUAL PLANS FOR THE BUILDING? ANSWER : The plans for Father Dolanls you mean? QUESTION $13 (CTN) YES. FOR BERCHMANS. WERE YOU PRIVY TO WHAT HE WAS PLANNING FOR THAT BUILDING? ANSWER: Well he showed us the plans. There were to be classrooms, all classrooms and the cafeteria and a lounge for the faculty. As I mentioned, the labs were to be up on the fourth floor and it just didn't work out and that's when 14 Jesuits occupied the place, but it was supposed to be all classrooms. Now remember, the fact that we had to face when we lived up there they didn't have enough money to Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 7 put the elevator in the first year so those of us who lived up there had to walk up the five flights every day and so on, but it was part of the way of pioneering and I was thin and after one year, we did get the elevator, so it was good. 9UESTION $14, VHS fl (0-11-46-281 DID FATHER DOLAN LIVE THERE AS WELL? ANSWER: Oh no, he lived in McAuliffeT-'Oh no, he lived in Bellarmine. That's where the Rectors always lived -- up in Bellarmine. 9UESTION $14 (CTN) WHAT KIND OF MAN WAS FATHER DOLAN? ANSWER : Father Dolan was a very gifted man, businesswise. He had @ been President of Boston College. He was Provcinial and then he came down here as Rector. He was very wonderful in business because the years he was here, he paid off the debt in Berchmans and Xavier. With us, he was a very strict superior, but he accomplished great things and we did what he told us to do and that's what I think made us love the place so much because we saw the development and we could look to the future as he planned it. But the pioneering was a challenge to us and he was kind to us, but at the same time, he was demanding and very strict on rules and so on, which was a very good point. Oral History: ~homas Murphy, S.J. Page 8 9UESTION $15, VHS #1 (0-13-05-001 DID YOU WORK WITH HIM ON ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT AT ALL? ANSWER: Well, no, I would have frequent contacts with him, especially when I was Assistant Principal and also Guidance Counselor and also when I had charge of the music and so on. You'd go in and talk things over with him and so on because the first years would always have a Glee Club Concert with Laurelton Hall and that went on for years, so he was aware of these things. Then we'd have the Glee Club sing for the parents and the gatherings of the Parents' Nights and so on and any of the plays that we had, which we would put on down in the Klein Memorial. He would be aware of all that because we'd notify him of everything that was going on because he had to keep his hand on the pulse of things. QUESTION $16, VHS #1 (0-14-00-20) WHEN YOU WERE GUIDANCE COUNSELOR, WERE THERE ANY PARTICULAR PROBLEMS THAT CAME UP THAT YOU SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT ALL THAT YOU RECALL? ANSWER : It was a wonderful thing if the Guidance Counselor and also the Spiritual Counselor that it was a wonderful experience for me 'cause I would interview every Junior and every Senior and during those days, it would be wonderful to hear of their intentions of going on to college and so many of them did and so many of them went to Fairfield University which was a wonderful tribute to us as Jesuits. I remember many vocations came from the Prep School at the Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 9 @ time. There were 7 priests who are actively in the priesthood in the Hartford Diocese who went to Prep. I would be, not only the Guidance Counselor, but the Spiritual Counselor, too and that was part of the pattern which has changed of late. There's one active in the priesthood in Atlanta Diocese. ~ h e s - a S 3 4 - a c t i v ein the priesthood in the Bridgeport Diocese, 4 active in the priesthood in the Franciscans, 1 active in the Priesthood of the Lasolette, 1 active in the Priesthood in the Benedictines, 2 are active in the Holy Ghost Fathers and 2 are in Maryknoll and 1 is-active in the Mill Hill Fathers in England and 1 of our graduates is Bishop of Iceland, Father Jolson; he was our first vocation, but it wasn't only the academics, but also the spiritual at that time because you combined the Academics with the Spiritual. It was very good because you could never make a judgment on a high school boy at Prep because some people, you'd look and see, they didn't have much in the way of potential until they matured and when they matured, they established themselves beautifully in all the various professions and so on and so many doctors in this area and so many lawyers and businessmen and education and so on, that's why you could never make a judgment regardingstheir teen-ager because as they matured, they achieved great things for themselves and it's been a great credit to their parents and to the school and to us. QUESTION #17, VHS (0-16-31-26) THIS MATURING PROCESS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT --HOW WOULD IT MANIFEST ITSELF? HOW WOULD YOU Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 10 SEE IT HAPPENING? ANSWER : Well, first of all, they wouldn't be doing their homework and you'd have to punish them for it and the more strict you were with them, the better you were going to get results. Then if they went on to their junior year and then their senior year, saw the manifestations because they were thi,nking in terms of college, they had to take the College Boards and so on and the maturity, it would appear then, but it did not come to its fullness until they got to -- - college. That actually happened to-me. I really didn't reach my maturity until I got my junior year at college and when I did, it was a great asset for me because I received many academic honors at the time, which my family didn't expect at the time, but I said to myself, "Well I want to dedicate myself to a particular work1' and I was thinking in terms of the Jesuits and so on and I said wWell, 1'11 see how my marks arew and spiritually, I asked for help and guidance and I got it and I achieved and that maturity came in my junior year at college. I graduated from Boston College and that's also happened to many of our Prep Students. Once they get into college, too, they matured and it was a tremendous factor. So many of them in the area have never forgotten our own ability to make them realize their potential is there if they'll only do their work and that had to be stressed and I must say they had a nickname; they had nicknames -- they always called me "Little Caesarw for the simple reason that I demanded that they lived up to their contract with their parents to do their homework and to do their studies and so on Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 11 because if they didn't, then they would fail and then they would discredit themselves to their parents and so on, so it was interesting. QUESTION # 18. VHS #1 (0-18-50-031 WAS THE COURSE OF STUDY HERE, AND IS IT STILL MORE DEMANDING THAN THE USUAL PUBLIC SCHOOL PROGRAM? ANSWER : It was at that time when I was actually teaching because they had to take Latin for 4 years and English for 4 years and they had to take a Modern Language and they had to take Chemistry and they had to take Physics and so on and all those things were demanding. It wasn't a question of an elective and some people who were very gifted also took Greek, but not all of them took Greek, but they had the Latin, the English and the Modern Language and the Sciences, so it was very demanding and they achieved. It wasn't easy on us because we would be teaching Latin, English and Theology and so on and other men would be teaching History, Chemistry, Mathematics and Physics and so on, so it was very demanding. 9UESTION $19, VHS #1 j0-19-47-071 SO YOU GENERALLY TAUGHT MORE THAN ONE TYPE OF COURSE? ANSWER: That's right. Most of us as we called Homeroom Teachers, would teach Latin and English, Public Speaking and Religion and those who had homerooms, then the others would come in with their History and their Mathematics and their Physics and Chemistry. When I was at college, of course, Boston College at the time, an AB Degree and I went to Boston College High School too, you took Latin and Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 12 Greek and English and you also at college you had to take Physics and Mathematics and Chemistry and so on and it was very demanding. That was the old AB degree then. .--A PUESTION $20, VHS #1 (0-20-32-29) THE--EARLY DAYS, I 'VE READ ABOUT THE JESUITS WHO WERE HERE ... THEY SORT OF HAD TO BE A JACK OF ALL TRADES, NOT ONLY DID YOU TEACH, BUT YOU HAD TO REPAIR CERTAIN THINGS IF THEY BROKE DOWN, YOU HAD TO MOW THE LAWN. ANSWER: That's right. We did. We had to take our turns up at the house. When the Chef was off for the weekend we'd have to take our turns helping in the kitchen and so on, helping to take care of the lawns up there because we didn't have the money at the time, so we had to do a lot of those particular jobs for the sake of economy, 'cause we didn't have the money to hire people at the time. QUESTION j/2l, VHS #1 (0-21-14-01) WHAT WAS THE RECEPTION WITHIN THE FAIRFIELD COMMUNITY TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NOW A PREP SCHOOL AND EVENTUALLY A COLLEGE? ANSWER : Oh, it was very well received. I never noticed any negative attitudes at all in my years here and I'm in my 50th year now. In the beginning of those early years, I never noticed any negative attitude whatsoever. We were always well received it seems to be, so I never noticed anything negative. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 13 9UESTION $22, VHS fi JO-21-43-25] WE ARE IN THE '40's AND MOVING INTO THE EARLY '50's AS YOU WENT ABOUT TRYING TO GET NEW STUDENTS TO COME HERE...HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT DOING THAT? HOW WAS THE RECRUITING OF STUDENTS DONE? ANSWER: They would go around the various schools. The Principal of the school at the time, they would go--around to the various churches and announce the examinations for Prep and also it would be in the papers and also they'd go around to some of the schools. Now they go around to many more schools than they did in our time. We'd advertise it in the churches and the papers and we would have the entrance examinations. Many would come and we could judge how many we could take. 9UESTION $23, VHS a (0-23-06-09) DID YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM GETTING ENOUGH STUDENTS? ANSWER: No. We were getting so many at one time we had to buy a place in Bridgeport, down in (I forget the name of the street) and we had ... University of Bridgeport finally bought that property; we had that for 2 years and the freshman went there for 2 years and then when we expanded and had Berchmans, they came back to the campus here. QUESTION 424. VHS (0-23-38-22) DO YOU RECALL THE BUILDING OF Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 14 THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN NOW? ANSWER: I do. I've seen them all go up -- every one of them. GUESTION $24 (CTN) AND THE PREP SCHOOL WAS EVENTUALLY MOVED INTO -- A HERE, WASN'T IT? ANSWER: It was. Eventually it was supposed to be here, but with the expansion of the college, Berchmans was the first building that went up and then Xavier where we are now and then the expansion has been tremendous. It's been a wonderful~'b1essing from Almighty God. When you stop and think -- 220 acres we got when we bought those 2 properties and now it's expanded even more with the Dolan Campus, but it's been remarkable the way the development a has succeeded. QUESTION $25, VHS #1 (0-23-54-20) DID THE WAR IMPACT THE PREP AT ALL? I MEAN, WAS IT MORE DIFFICULT TO GET STUDENTS OR WERE STUDENTS LEAVING PART WAY THROUGH TO GO INTO THE SERVICE? ANSWER: You mean for the Prep School? YES. No, no. There was no difficulty that way. Some of them, as I mentioned, some seniors left to go into the Service, but no, we always had good numbers applying. QUESTION $26, (CTN) . YOU WERE ALSO WORKING WITH THE GLEE CLUB DURING ALL OF THE TIME THAT YOU WERE THERE. ANSWER: That's right. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 15 9UESTION $27, VHS #1 (0-24-18-181 HOW DID YOU FIND STUDENTS FOR - - - - -- - -- - - THE GLEE CLUB? DID YOU AUDITION? ANSWER: We'd audition and what we had all this extra-curricular activities. We had Debating and we had the Bellarmine Quarterly which was a magazine that they put out, we had people working on the Hearthstone, which was the Yearbook, we-~-d-.-hpaevoep le in the Glee Club, in the musical clubs, but it would be after school once a week and that's the way we started all, 'cause then we got to know the students better by this extra curricular activities and also the athletics too, that was very, very good because then the Priest who was Chaplain of the Athletic Department, he would get to know them very well and we had all the athletic activities for them which was very, very wonderful. PUESTION $28, VHS #1 (0-25-16-281 WHERE DID THE GLEE CLUB SING, GENERALLY? WAS IT JUST HERE? ANSWER: We'd sing for the parents, for the Parents' Meetings and any occasions that might come up. We might go out locally some place. There weren't too many because you had changing voices at that age level, but then the Laurelton Hall was the big factor, but that was the Prep School. The University, of course, has been tremendous in their development of the musical clubs. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 16 QUESTION $29, VHS #1 (0-25-48-01) NOW, FATHER DOLAN, I GUESS WAS -- IN CHARGE OF THE PREP AT THE BEGINNING. IS THAT RIGHT? ANSWER: Father McEleney FATHER MCELENEY. Later, Bishop McEleney. He was a tremendous, tremendous man. He had great rapport with the people, great rapport and he was only here for about '42, I think it was '44 he went to Boston as Provincial and Father Dolan came back here and Father McEleney was tremendous. He established a great rapport with the people and he was wonderful with us. Knowing that we're meeting the challenge of pioneering he was very kind and thoughtful and very sensitive to our needs too. QUESTION $30. VHS #1 (0-26-34-041 WAS THERE ANY FEELING IN THOSE EARLY DAYS THAT THE PREP SCHOOL MIGHT NOT SUCCEED? DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THE SUCCESS? ANSWER: No, I never did. I never felt that. I hope it will never happen because it's established itself so well, although it's a question of finances, I guess. It's expensive every place, but no there was never any talk of closing it down. $WESTION $31, VHS #1 (0-27-05-041 IF YOU HAD TO COMPARE FATHER MCELENEY WITH FATHER DOLAN, WERE THEY THE SAME IN PERSONALITY OR DIFFERENT? ANSWER: Oh .no, different personality. Father Dolan Oral History: Thomas Murphy; S.J. Page 17 was a great business man, very demanding, in a professional way. Father McEleney was not as demanding, but he would accomplish the same thing in a different mode. - QUESTION $32, VHS #1 (0-27-31-23) WHAT -EXACTLY DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? Father McEleney, when he would see you, "How are you feeling? You're not over-tired now, or if you are over-tired, I want you to go to the City for a day and just relax." With Father Dolan, that wouldnlt happen, you see, but Father Dolan had other great assets which were tremendous with what he's accomplishing. Father McEleney would accomplish it, but in a different way, but I think the rapport with the people, which he left a great heritage to Father Dolan because Father Dolan picked up the friendliness of these people that had been established by Father McEleney. QUESTION 433, VHS #1 10-28-18-17) AFTER FATHER DOLAN LEFT, WHO TOOK OVER THE RUNNING OF THE PREP SCHOOL? WHO WAS THE NEXT? DO YOU RECALL WHO WAS THE NEXT? ANSWER: Father Joseph Fitzgerald was the next Rector and he was wonderful. He had been Dean at Holy Cross College and I think he was in the Provincialls Office in educational capacity. He was very fine. Father Joseph Fitzgerald. PUESTION $34, VHS #1 (0-28-45-19) DID HE RUN BOTH THE UNIVERSITY AND THE PREP SCHOOL? WAS HE IN CHARGE OF BOTH? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 18 He did. QUESTION $35, VHS #1 10-28-48-181 IT WASN'T SPLIT OFF? ANSWER: No, no. You see, we're under the jurisdiction in a way of the University. In so many Jesuit places, they're separated from the University, but not here, as of now. QUESTION $36, VHS #1 (0-29-06-151 WAS -T. HERE A LOT OF TURNOVER AMONG THE JESUIT TEACHERS? DID THEY COME FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN GO OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE? ANSWER: That's right, that's right. I SEE. Many of them transferred. Some of them came from Boston College. They were transferred down here from Holy Cross and from Boston College High School. In those days they transferred you. It never happened to me so I was never transferred but many of them were here for perhaps two or three years and then they went back to their other assignment. It was, at the time, you expected changes, because where there was a need, they had to make the change and those changes took place. Many were transferred. QUESTION $37, VHS #1 (0-29-55-03) DO- YOU RECALL ANY OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY --ANY THAT STAND OUT FOR YOU? ANSWER: Yes, I remember Father Rodney McDonald, God be good to him, he's passed on now, very gifted man in Physics and he was here Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 19 in the Physics Department at the University from the beginning. Then he went to Holy Cross to teach up there and he passed away about a year and a half ago. Father Langguth who taught Physics at the Prep became the first Dean of the University and then when he was in charge ... at a particular time he was made--Rector of Shadowbrook, our Novitiate in Lenox, Massachusetts and he did a great job up there. After his term, he went down to Fall River to teach there in our high school. It's an amazing thing. Father -. Langguth was studying at Harvard for his Doctoral Degree in Physics and in those days, you just received letters. I received a letter to come to Fairfield. He received a letter about a month ahead of me to give up Harvard and come to Fairfield. Father John Kelly did a lot a of radio work around Boston. One time he was located at Holy Cross. He received a letter. "Come to Fairfield''. So, in those days, you just obeyed and came. They accomplished great things. QUESTION $38, VHS #1 (0-31-32-08) WE TALKED TO FATHER LANGGUTH, OH I GUESS LATE LAST YEAR AND WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE FIRST PHYSICS LAB THAT HE DEVELOPED, I GUESS IT WAS IN THE BASEMENT. - ANSWER: In the basement of McAuliffe. That's right. AND HE SAID IT WAS REALLY QUITE SOMETHING TO DO THEN. And Father Landry, Father Jerry Landry, he had charge of the Chemistry and he had the Chemistry Lab, I think it was in the kitchen of McAuliffe there. Father Landry went from the Prep to the University and then to Boston College and now he's at our Jesuit Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 20 House; he's 89 years old in Boston. Father Langguth is stationed there with him. Father Jim Barry who was the first Student Counselor. Father Jim went from Fairfield Prep to Jamaica where he was in the mission field and he became Superior of Jamaica and he was . - - - - . . . . . . down there for many, many years and--now he's back at our Campion Center, Health Center in Western Massachusetts. So many of those men -- Father Gene Burns, Father Gene left here, he was transferred to go to St. Philip Neary . - -. . - . School in Boston and from there he went to Baghdad and he taught there for some time and then he came back here and he went to Alaska, working up there in Education, in Priestly Education, too. They were tremendous men. QUESTION $39, VHS #1 (0-33-08-01) DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY DESIRE TO BE TRANSFERRED ANYWHERE ELSE? DID YOU EVER LOOK LONGINGLY AT ALL THESE PEOPLE? ANSWER: No, I just accepted God's will; that was it; if He wants me here, this was it. I think at one time I was going to be transferred too, I was told I was going to be transferred to one of our, to be Principals of our of our high schools and the Provincial told me not to mention it to anyone, so I didn't. Then Father Joseph Fitzgerald was the Rector and he came into my office, Student Counselor's Office and he said What did the Provincial say to you?n I said, "1 was going to be Provincial at this particular high scho01.~ And he said, "Well, I'm not going to let you go." So, it Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 21 never went through. QUESTION $40e VHS #1 j0-33-53-20) - NOW;- AS- STUDENT COUNSELOR, WHAT EXACTLY WERE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES? WHAT DID YOU DO IN THAT CAPACITY? ANSWER : Well, for example, if a youngster came into me and was thinking of Pre-Medical and he certainly didn't have any ability in Chemistry and so on, I'd direct him to go into some other course. It would be, I'd have their record in front of me and I'd test them on the Couter Test at the time and their interest and if I found that they didn't have scientific ability, I wouldn't let them go into the area of Science and they appreciated that. If they had ability in languages and so on, I'd direct them into the classical course, but that's what you had to be perceptive enough to know their potential and what they could do because I wouldn't want them to go into pre-medical course in college and flunk out. I interviewed each one of them, the Seniors, in their junior year and then in their senior year and they would tell me all their difficulties regarding their education and so on and I could counsel them. I still keep up contact with them. They've never forgotten it. I remember when I taught in McAuliffe there in Sophomore Year one year and now he's a very prominent surgeon locally and he just went off the classroom, just walked out of the classroom one day, it was on the lower floor and he came back and he had missed a class, Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 22 you know, so I had to put him in what we called llJUG1lt,h at was "Justice Under Godw. I put him in punishment and he's never forgotten it. He still talks about it. Other people locally, the little things that happened with them. - - - - - - - QUESTION $41, VHS #1 (0-35-49-071 DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OTHER INCIDENTS LIKE THAT? ANSWER: I remember one, he's passed on now, a very prominent lawyer, he was brilliant, absolutely brilliant, but his conduct was terrible, so I gave him a "DM in deportment. He said...I met him in the back of McAuliffe and he was crying and I said What's the matter with you?IB And he said "You gave me a IBDN in Deportmentu. I said, "1 could have given you "ZN, but he never forgot that, but had a very brilliant career as a Lawyer, brilliant, and he passed away about 3-4 years ago, no about 5 years ago now. QUESTION $42, VHS fi (0-36-28-15) DID YOU WORK WITH THE STUDENTS HELP TO ADVISE THEM AS TO WHAT COLLEGES THEY OUGHT TO AIM FOR? ANSWER : Yes, that's right. I'd tell them to apply to 3 different colleges of their choice, you see and in those days, the entrances, it wasn't as demanding as it is now. For example, if someone came in to me, I taught at Holy Cross as a scholastic up there and if somebody wanted to go to Holy Cross, as Guidance Counselor I could call up there, the Dean of Freshman and mention the fact and plus the very good record, there'd be no difficulty, he'd Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 23 get in, the sane way as Boston College, the same way as Georgetown and these places, but the whole pattern has changed now because of the demands that are coming in. I was very happy that so many of them, our students, went to the University here. Father Eddie Walsh was in charge of entrance, I think hg was-in-charge, Freshman, maybe it was Father Langguth, but if you'd tell him they had a good record and so on, they would accept it. QUESTION #43, VHS #1 (0-37-39-21) --. WAS-'THERE ANY SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PREP SCHOOL AND THE UNIVERSITY THAT MADE IT ANY EASIER FOR STUDENTS FROM THE PREP TO GET INTO THE UNIVERSITY? ANSWER: Provided they had the ability. If they didn't have the ability we couldn't recommend them, but there's been a good rapport, although as the place has grown now, I think the Prep is more or less, a little in the background now, not in any deliberate way, but with the progression of the University and so on, but our numbers are still up in the people who are coming to the Prep. The applications are still up even though the tuition's very high now. Again, locally, they're high at other private schools in the area too, so I'd like to see, it can't be separated as it is now. I don't understand the whole legality of it, but anyway, it's flourishing. PUESTION $44, VHS fi (0-38-36-28) NOW WHILE YOU WERE STILL GUIDANCE COUNSELOR AND YOU SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY RIGHT THROUGH THE Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 24 ANSmR: 17 years, yes. QUESTION $44 (CTN) DID YOU SEE THE CHANGE BEGIN TO OCCUR SO THAT YOU COULD NO LONGER JUST CALL SOMEONE IN THE UNIVERSITY? ANSWER: There were exams... -- -. OUESTION $44 (CTNI COLLEGE BOARD EXAMS. College Boards. Once they started to become activated and so on, it was a different story because for example, some people don't test well at all even though their academic re- cord is tremendous, they don't test well. That happened to me musically one time because the Good Lord has given me talent in music and we had a music test one time in the course as a Jesuit and I was sitting aside one of our Jesuits who would always sing at any functions and he always went flat, but I could transpose. So, I said to him this night, I said "Here's where 1'11 shine." So, anyway, they gave us the music test and when the results came out, he was in the 89th percentile and I was in the 22nd, so with testing, I didn't have much hope after that, 'cause apparently I didn't test well, even though I had the ability in Music. 9UESTION $45, VHS #1 (0-40-05-02) DO YOU RECALL STUDENTS WHO HAD DONE WELL ACADEMICALLY BUT DIDN'T DO AS WELL ON THE COLLEGE BOARDS AND YOU HAD TO WORK WITH THEM TO HELP THEM DECIDE WHAT TO DO OR WHAT COLLEGE THEY COULD GET INTO? ANSWER: You'd have to write to these different Deans of Admission and explain the situation. It depends, with the Deans of Admission, Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 25 it depends on the numbers that are applying, you see, but it's a very sensitive thing, very sensitive. - PUESTION $46, VHS #1 J0-40-35-18) WOULD YOU BE THE ONE WHO WOULD WRITE THOSE LETTERS? ANSWER: Yes -- or contact them. If they were good benefactors of . ----. the school and the parents were, the student was very, had great potential for achievement, I'd write and let them know. PUESTION #47, VHS (0-40-53-07) WAS FAIRFIELD PREP, DURING THE '50's AND THE '60's FEEDING THE STUDENTS MAINLY INTO CATHOLIC UNIVERSITIES? ANSWER: Yes, at the time because there was...a dictum came out that they should go to their Catholic universities and so and I remember one student with a great sense of humor and came into me and of course we'd tell him that he'd have to apply to a Catholic University and that's the spirit that should carried forth. remember one young man, he's a very prominent businessman now. He came into me and I said "Now what are you planning?" He said, "Ivm going to Southern MethodistN. So I said, "Fine, go to Southern Methodist, but where else are you applying?" He was just kidding me, you know, because Southern Methodist is a very fine college and I certainly would have approved of it, but he finally went to Boston College, but he was baiting me that day. Some of them, a lot of Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 26 them, went all around. They weren't restricted to one, just to Catholic colleges because they went to other colleges at the time. 9UESTION $48, VHS #1 (0-42-12-05) NOW THIS HAS BECOME MORE TRUE -- - OVER THE LAST 15 OR SO YEARS. ANSWER: That's right. SO THAT YOU'VE GOT STUDENTS, I IMAGINE, GOING INTO, I BELIEVE THE IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS. ANSWER: Oh yes, definitely. We neverlooked down on the Ivy League schools, at all, in any way whatsoever, if they wanted to go there, fine. If they had the ability and so on, we certainly would a approve of them. QUESTION $49. VHS #1 10-42-36-05) DURING THIS PERIOD OF THE '50's AND THE '601S, I PRESUME THE REPUTATION OF THE SCHOOL WAS GROWING AS WELL, WAS IT NOT? ANSWER: That's right. The achievements of our students have been a great asset for us here, there's no doubt about it. QUESTION #50, VHS DURING THE PERIOD OF THE '50's AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE YOU BACK A LITTLE BIT, ARE THERE INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED, SPECIAL THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT YOU RECALL IN PARTICULAR, THAT SORT OF STAND OUT IN YOUR MIND? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 27 Regarding ... 9UESTION $50 tCTN1 (0-43-07-161 WAS THERE A SPECIAL EVENT HERE AT THE PREP SCHOOL OR WERE THERE PARTICULAR STUDENTS THAT YOU RECALL, SOMETHING THAT THE GLEE CLUB DID? ANSWER: Let me see. You know whenthey-first opened the Gymnasium over here, all the basketball games, the college basketball, the Father's Club gave a $3,000.00 organ to that gym over there and all the basketball games I'd go over and play the organ like you'd think you were in Madison Square Garden or"some--place. Then the University Glee Club, whenever they were without an accompanist, I'd accompany them you know, accompany the Glee Club and then we had the 25th Anniversary of Prep, which was a big function and we had that in the Campus Center and hundreds came and Father Gannon, God be good to him, he was President of Fordham at the time, was the main speaker. I was the Moderator of that particular event with the Mother's Club and it was a tremendous, tremendous event and there must have been about 400 or 500 people there at the dinner and afterwards there was dancing and so on. So, musically, I would help and at the Prep Graduation and the College graduations, at the beginning I always did the music work for it. I remember one university graduation was over in the field here, the athletic field and we had the stage there at the time, I forget what they call it, but I always remember the first University graduation in 1951. It was the hottest day we could possibly have and Father Rodney McDonald, my Mentor, was in charge of Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 28 arrangements and he hired a band from Bridgeport t o play the march and they played, being a musician I knew the march, the Bay State Commandry was the name of the march, and I knew t h a t the t r i o of t h a t particular march was Adeste Fidelis, the Christmas hymn, so anyway as they marched down with caps and gowns-and-so--on, it must have been 95 and there they were playing I1O Come A l l Y e Faithfull1, so 1'11 never forget t h a t , but then when they got over t o the f i e l d up on the stage, they had the organ there. But the people over the years gave these various instruments and organs'and--pianos and t h a t was where I was part of t h a t . Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 29 a His son, now a Jesuit -- he was teaching at the University. I remember one time they were going to perform at the Waldorf Astoria in New York. I don't know what happened, but something happened because they didn't have an accompanist so they asked me to go down and I went down and played for them, accompanied them there. Father Murray did a tremendous job. 9UESTION $51, VHS #1 (0-46-41-101 WHAT KIND OF MAN WAS MR. HERR1 CK? ANSWER: Mr. Herrick was a charming gentleman, charming gentleman and a very excellent musician and his wife had a beautiful singing voice too. I remember .one occasion she did perform and I accompanied her. PUESTION $52, VHS #1 (0-47-01-221 WHAT WAS IT LIKE PLAYING AT THE WALDORF ASTORIA? ... PLAYING AT THE WALDORF ASTORIA MUST HAVE BEEN QUITE AN EXPERIENCE FOR YOU. ANSWER: It was. It was a great big organ. I forget what the occasion was, but I know they needed someone so Father Murray asked me if I would go down and help which I did. PUESTION 353. VHS j#J 10-47-21-29) WAS THE TYPE OF STUDENT THAT WAS COMING INTO THE PREP, WAS THAT CHANGING AS THE '50's AND '60's WENT ON? WERE THEY DIFFERENT...DID YOU FIND THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PERSON COMING OR WAS IT STILL THE SAME TYPE OF STUDENT THROUGHOUT ALL THE YEARS THAT YOU WERE THERE? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 30 ANSWER: W e l l , the Admissions Committee goes over the thing and i f we found t h a t a youngster j u s t didn't have t h e a b i l i t y , it was foolish t o spend the money, but i f they have the a b i l i t y ... for example, I have a Scholarship Fund over there t h a t was s t a r t e d by friends and alumni and so on and I put the condition down t h a t it would be given t o the son of an alumnus or the son of a benefactor or the grandson of a benefactor who I was aware of because I have a list of names of a l l those people who have given t o the school and r i g h t now I am helping an individual who had 2 brothers a t Prep, a sister a t college and they had a l o t of health problems, the mother died. So I ' m able t o help him. That's what I want t o do. I want t o build up t h a t Scholarship Fund t o help others, too because with the recession now, t h e y ' l l need help and t h a t ' s what I think is so necessary and so charitable and honest. I can never, over the years, I've l i s t e d what I c a l l the Bellarmine Hall of Fame. I have a list of a l l those people who the early years were great benefactors. Great benefactors. I remember one -- Ray Flicker, who owned the Bridgeport Telegram and Post -- he was a great benefactor and h i s grandsons went t o Prep and so on and over the years, a l l those names I have, I w i l l do something for them i f t h e i r grandchildren come along and they need help; t h a t ' s what I think is so e s s e n t i a l because it's so easy t o forget people who have been good t o us, you see. That's why I c a l l it the Bellamine Hall of Fame -- a l l these names because I never want them t o be forgotten. For instance, it's not Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 31 known, I mean, when you bring up names and the people never heard of them and yet they were great benefactors. When you stop and think of it, there was Gonzaga now, there's a painting there in the foyer and it was done locally by an artist -- who knows him? Mr. Riley. They don't know these things. I don't know if they are in the archives or not, but I'll never lose sight of that because there's been such tremendous generosity on the part of people in the area that I never want them forgotten. 9UESTION #54, VHS #J (0-50-23-101 WHAT DO YOU THINK INDUCED SOME OF THESE PEOPLE TO BECOME BENEFACTORS? ANSWER: Well, I think they were interested in Catholic education. I don't say that in a negative way to other education and I think they were interested in the Society of Jesus and then establishing contacts with other people who have had sons go through here and they carried on a tradition. Many of these students who came to us, their fathers had been to our Jesuit colleges; it's been tremendous the way they've supported us you know. QUESTION $55, VHS #J (0-51-01-281 WHAT IS THE TRADITION THIS SCHOOL GIVES ITS STUDENTS? ANSWER: Well, the Jesuit tradition -- the greater honor and glory of God -- that's why we're in business and the Jesuit ideal as Ignatius pointed out to us is the importance of not their intellectual growth but their spiritual growth with almighty God Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 32 which is so important. That's our whole vocation to have their lives become of great value. Recently there was one of our graduates in the Class of '48 who was playing golf in Florida and dropped dead and I preached at his funeral mass and his father was a very great, generous benefactor and his father had passed on and his brother, who went to this school had passed on, so I keep up that contact because I don't want the families to think they were forgotten. It's an interest and a dedication that to me is very blessed. Oral History: Thomas.Murphy, S.J. Page 33 QUESTION #56. VHS u (0-52-12-11) DID THE SPIRITUAL FOCUS OF THE PREP SCHOOL CONTINUE AS STRONG DURING THE '60's AND '701S? ANSWER: No. No. It's a different pattern. In the early years, we had a beautiful chapel in ~c~uliffe,-beautiful chapel and we had first Friday devotions -- the Sacred Heart and then during the year we had the Sodality of our Blessed Mother and that would be a weekly meeting -- all spiritual dedication to our Blessed Mother. Then during the month of October, we'd say the Rosary decades of the Rosary before every class and then during the month of May, we'd have May shrines in all the classrooms. The one who had the best, we'd give them a prize, but every year, we had our annual retreats and weld have different Jesuits come from out of town to give three-day • retreat to the school, the different year separately. Then when I was the Student's Counselor, I took them up to our Retreat House in Monroe, New York for three days, each section of the Senior Class and it was a tremendous blessing for them and they liked it very much. I don't think it's gone because they still have a retreat in some form for the students. Then we'd have daily mass too for them over there, so I'm not as aware of it now as I was when I was in that particular job. QUESTION $57, VHS u (0-53-56-24) DO YOU THINK THAT THERE HAS BECOME LESS EMPHASIS --DID YOU SEE LESS EMPHASIS ON THAT ASPECT OF THE.. . . .3 ANSWER: We don't have it as we used to have it, you see. I don't Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S. J. Page 34 want to be negative, but we don't have it as we used to have it which I would like to have seen renewed, but the whole approach is entirely different. QUESTION # 58, VHS #I. (0-54-24-171 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? ANSWER: Well, for example, when we had the first Friday Devotions, we'd go over to McAuliffe, Loyola Chapel and we'd have mass for them and we'd all receive Holy Communion and then they'd have the Sacrament of Reconciliation the day before and all the priests would be there. That has gone. It isn't as it used to be. To some extent it is existent, but not as prominently as before. It's not a question of being negative, but it's a question of being factual. 9UESTION $59, VHS #1 (0-55-09-021 WAS THE PREP SCHOOL AFFECTED AT ALL BY THE TURMOIL THAT WENT ON AT THE UNIVERSITY DURING THE '60's AND EARLY '70 IS? ANSWER: No, no we weren't. But the University had that turmoil. We didn't have that. We didn't have that at all, thank God. QUESTION $60, VHS #1 (0-55-23-291 YOU SERVED AS DIRECTOR OF ALUMNI RELATIONS IN THE '60's AND '701S? a ANSWER: I did. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 35 DO YOU STILL CONTINUE? WHAT WERE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES IN THAT? ANSWER: Well, it would be first of all looking up lost alumni which I enjoyed very much and keeping up contact with them and then running the annual reunions every year and then sending them letters, announcements, having the Phone-A-Thon. It was very interesting work because and I'd hear from them frequently during the course of the year and it was keeping up. For example, this morning, now I read the paper and from the Death Notices, I noticed that the parents of two of our alumni had passed away, so immediately I called up the office and gave the data and I said, ''Send a card to the family and put my name on it.!! That's what my job really is now -- keeping up contact and the two men were of the Class of ' 4 9 . I looked up that and I'm aware of it and that's what I like to do. QUESTION $61, VHS #1 (0-56-36-021 WHEN YOU WERE DIRECTOR OF ALUMNI RELATIONS, DID YOU GET INVOLVED WITH FUND RAISING AT ALL? ANSWER: Yes. We would and the alumni would be very generous, very generous in the very functions that we'd have. The Phon-a-Thons's they'd be very good, but of course, right now, it's the recession. PUESTION $62, VHS #1 (0-57-27-01) WAS THAT THE MAIN FUND RAISING a ACTWITY, THE PHON-A-THON? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S..J. Page 36 @ ANSWER: That's right and then we'd have a football night out here and the alumni would come and we'd raise money on that. QUESTION $62 (CTN). WHILE THE PREP SCHOOL IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE UNIVERSITY, ALTHOUGH IT'S SEPARATE, BUT IT'S PART. ANSWER: No, I don't think it's part. IT'S NOT PART, IT IS SEPARATE. Separate. QUESTION $63. VHS (0-57-27-011 IS THERE SOMEONE WHO IS BASICALLY THE ADMINISTRATOR OVER THE PREP SCHOOL? ANSWER:The Headmaster. AND HAS THERE BEEN A HEADMASTER SINCE THE BEGINNING? Since the beginning. Yes. There have been many of them. DO YOU RECALL ANY OF THEM IN PARTICULAR? Sure, I do. The listings of the Past Presidents, the past Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 37 Headmasters, Father Leo Riley, Father Walter Kennedy, Father Frank Cardy, Father Joseph McGrady, .Father Ed Fain, Father A1 Morris, Father Bob Start, Tim McGuillicudy was an Acting Principal, Father Powers, Father Boler, Father Eugene O'Brien, Father Charles Allen and now Father Aramon. PUESTION $64, VHS (0-58-32-121 CAN I TAKE YOU BACK TO SOME OF THEM AND ASK YOU ABOUT SOME OF THEM? -.- - ANSWER: Sure. Father Leo Riley was the first Principal. He was very tremendous in the first years. 9UESTION $64 (CTNI THIS WAS DURING THE I4O1,ST HAT HE WAS PRINCIPAL? He was Principal in l42, '42 to I45 and Leo established a great regime in the Prep School -- wonderful. He was a very good leader and very level headed, knew what he was doing all the time, very perceptive, I thought. 9UESTION $65, VHS (0-59-12-19) NOW WHEN YOU SAY THAT HE ESTABLISHED A GOOD REGIME, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? ANSWER: Well, because we had confidence in his ability, we had confidence in his ability to run the school which was very, very essential. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 38 9UESTION $66, VHS u (0-59-24-281 DID HE ESTABLISH VARIOUS PROCEDURES AND SO FORTH? ANSWER: He would, like office examinations and so on and things like that. He would go, which was a good thing and was carried on when I was Assistant Principal and at her ~ e aolw ays went around to observe the teachers while they were teaching. If there were defects, he would bring them out and that was a tradition that we had which was very essential. He would do that because if he got complaints from parents regarding the teacher, then he'd go and observe and that was very, very excellent I thought. As Assistant Principal, I used to do that to. We were supposed to do it and it's a very, very wonderful idea because we have to e check to see if they are messing up in certain presentations. 9UESTION 367, VHS u (1-00-22-071 NOW WHEN YOU SAY THAT HE ESTABLISHED OFFICE EXAMINATIONS, WHAT WERE THEY? ANSWER: For instance, we'd have Section A, B, C, D, E, and F -- Freshmen. He'd give an Office Examination in Latin and now if I taught Section D, my class would take the examination. Section A might correct it, then he could established the efficiency of the teachers. Or Section F, perhaps Section F wasn't doing as well as Section B and so on, then he'd have his hand on the pulse of things. 9UESTION $68. VHS 11-01-04-01) NOW WHEN YOU SAY SOMETIMES PARENTS USED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT A TEACHER, HOW WOULD THEY KNOW THAT Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 39 THE TEACHER WASN'T DOING AS GOOD A JOB -- THE STUDENT WOULD GO HOME AND TELL THEM? ANSWER : Yes. You know the way they might be critical of them. Then the parents would call up and come in for a consultation. I know that there are, when I was Assistant Principal, there was one youngster who just would not adjust, he was defying the teacher and I just dismissed him from the school. I had to do it because he was giving great disedification to the other students in the classroom, so I said "This is the fact, you're just not living up to what you're supposed to do." So I let him go. You had to do it, disciplinewise; otherwise, the whole spirit would get down. QUESTION $69. VHS #1 (1-01-56-201 WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED FREQUENTLY? 0 ANSWER: Oh, no, no, no. It did not happen frequently. And then the parents would come in and they might say 'IWell, how come my son was not getting a good mark in English?" You'd have the data there to tell them that he wasn't doing his homework, he wasn't applying himself and so on. You had to establish an honest rapport w i t h t h e m in every w a y . PUESTION 4 70, VHS #1 (1-02-30-18) HOW MUCH HOMEWORK APPROXIMATELY DID THE STUDENTS GET EVERY DAY? ANSWER: Well, we wanted them to do at least 2 hours1 homework at night, 3 because you know...the point is this if you gave them enough homework, you're going to have less problems with them as they exist Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 40 today, I mean, in general. 9UESTION $71. VHS fi (1-02-48-22) WHAT TIME DID THE SCHOOL DAY START IN THE MORNING? HOW LONG A DAY WAS IT USUALLY? ANSWER : It started from 9 to 2:15. QUESTION $72, VHS fi (1-02-59-221 THERE WERE ACTIVITIES, I TAKE IT, AFTER THAT. ANSWER: 2:15 and the Athletic activities and all the other extra-curricular activities, so they'd be here-until about 4 o'clock. Then there'd be a bus that would pick them up, take them home. LET'S JUST GO ON WITH A FEW MORE OF THE PRINCIPALS. Father Walter Kennedy -- he was 1945 to 1951. He's passed on too. QUESTION fl3, VHS (1-03-24-21) DO YOU RECALL HIM AT ALL? ANSWER: Oh sure. He was in my class in the Jesuits. He was the first Principal in Berchmans and he did a very fine job. He came out of the Army; he had been a Chaplin, so he was in command and you knew it, but very kind man, very good rapport with the faculty, very good and the students liked him very much. QUESTION $74, VHS fi (1-03-55-06) WHAT SIZE WAS THE STUDENT BODY AROUND THAT .TIME? ANSWER : Maybe about, I'd say, must be about 700 anyway. I stand open to question; it might be more. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 41 9UESTION #75, VHS #1 (1-05-05-09) THERE WERE 4 GRADES HERE, 9, 10, 11, 12? ANSWER : Yes. And then we had Father Frank Cardy. He was here for 8 years and Frank did a fine job, too. Very good spirit and very fine in his relationship to the faculty and the students. Then Father A1 Morris -- he had been a scholastic here and then came back to us, then he was teaching, then he was made Principal. A1 has passed on and he was a very kind man and had a good relationship with the faculty and also with the parents and thought very well of, you know, in the area too and people remember him very well. A1 has passed on too. 9UESTION $76, VHS #1 (1-05-05-09) WHEN DID YOU SERVE AS ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL? ANSWER: I think it was '47 to '50. Oh no, it might have been '48 to '50. '48 to '50 I think it was. 9UESTION $77, VHS #1 (1-05-16-26) , DID YOU ENJOY,THAT ROLE? DID YOU LIKE THAT? ANSWER: No. I said to the Provincial that it wasn't my ... 'cause you're t~roubleshooting, either with the parents, the kids or the faculty and I said that's not my style. I didn't like it as well as when I went into Student Counsel and Academic Counseling, I enjoyed Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. 'Page 42 a it very much. But the other one with the responsibility was just in McAuliffe and then Father Kennedy was in Berchmans and we had a great friendliness between us, but it wasn't my style; I didn't enjoy it as much as I did teaching or counseling. So I asked out of that which -- they took me out. QUESTION #78, VHS u (1-06-06-05) WAS IT IMPORTANT FOR THE HEADMASTER TO HAVE A GOOD RAPPORT WITH THE PARENTS AND TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY? ANSWER: Oh definitely, definitely -- that's part of their job. And if you're passive and so on and don't have a rapport with them, it's just unfortunate because you've got to have that rapport and you've got to establish a good relationship with people and friendliness because if you're going to be passive, they'll say forget about it. QUESTION #79, VHS u (1-06-32-15) I IMAGINE YOU ALSO HAVE TO.HAVE A CERTAIN ABILITY TO RAISE MONEY TOO. ANSWER: That's right because that's part of the Headmaster's job. 9UESTION $79 (CTN). WERE PEOPLE DURING THE '501S, WERE THEY FAIRLY FORTHCOMING WITH DONATIONS? They were. They were very, very generous I thought and that's what I say -- all those benefactors. What the parents have done has been a tremendous factor. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 43 QUESTION $80. VHS #1 (1-06-59-051 ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THE PARENTS HAVE DONE BESIDES JUST DONATING MONEY FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW? . -- . - - - - ANSWER : Well I remember the Mother's Club one time in Berchmans raised money to put up new drapes over there in the cafeteria and also what they did -- we had a small chapel in Berchmans and they donated money to put statues in Berchmans in the chapel and also up in McAuliffe, there was a benefactor who gave a big organ up there for the chapel and also parents of two students who had passed on, they gave beautiful statues up there, so this has been going on over the years and these people can never be forgotten @ because the Mother's Club and the Father's Club, what they have done for the athletic field here has been tremendous. QUESTION $81, VHS #1 11-08-00-04) WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELD? ANSWER: Well, they raised money to make that new baseball field over there and also you know, the Prep did it and it was the Prep field. I remember Father Jim Leffler, one of our men, he was the one who did all the ground work to establish our first football field over there and it was the Prep Field and now they call it Alumni Field. It is the Prep actually and I don't say that in a negative Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 44 way, but I don't want the Prep to be forgotten in that regard because it's been very essential to this Fairfield community, that Prep was established. - -- -- --. QUESTION $82, VHS #1 (1-08-47-031 I GET A SENSE THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED THAT THE PREP MAY BE FORGOTTEN A LITTLE BIT. ANSWER: I am a little. ---.a THAT THE UNIVERSITY MAY BE OVERSHADOWING THE PREP SCHOOL. Sometimes. I don't want it to happen, but I don't want the Prep ever to be forgotten. It's been my whole life, my 50 years, I'm on my 50th year now and knowing what all these people have accomplished for us, I don't want it to be pushed in the background at all. Years ago, under .Father Dolan, he -a sked me if I wanted to go and teach in the University and the first year I said "No, I prefer to stay and work at that age level of the high school peoplew, which is a tremendous challenge and which I liked very much. So, my whole concern and my whole interest has been with the Prep and I never want it to be put in the'back seat in any way whatsoever because it is Fairfield as far as I am concerned and the University has been tremendous. God has blessed us tremendously with the development of the University, but with that development, we can't forget the Prep. Now it's unusual now, they have all these plaques around the campus now, 50th Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 45 anniversary of the University, but nothing about the Prep. But anyway, we have a flag over in the quadrangle for the Prep Anniversary too. QUESTION $83, VHS #1 (1-10-26-08) ARE ALL THE FACULTY AT THE PREP JESUIT FACULTY? ANSWER: There are 14 of us there. SO THERE ARE NO LAY FACULTY AT ALL? ANSWER: Oh, many, about 44. 9UESTION #83 (CTN). (OH I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. WHEN DID THE CHANGE BEGIN, I MEAN, WHEN DID LAY FACULTY BEGIN COMING IN TO THE PREP SCHOOL? ANSWER: Well, because our vocations have dropped down in numbers you see. We had many more Jesuits then and so many of those Principals that passed on now and so many have passed on and we don't have the numbers coming in, it's the same way with the University and so we have to get the lay people, the lay teachers to come in and you've got to pay them well to, so that's why your tuition goes up and so on, but there's a need. Let me see, if we had 14 teaching, some were in Administration. 9UESTION $84, VHS #1 (1-11-23-16) DID THE CHARACTER OF THE PREP SCHOOL CHANGE AT ALL WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF MORE AND MORE LAY FACULTY? ANSWER: No, I don't think so because they understand what our mission in as ~esuits and we let them know what they are to achieve Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 46 according to our ideals and our norms. 9UESTION 4 85, VHS #1 11-11-47-22) ARE THERE ANY OTHER TEACHERS THAT STAND OUT OTHER THAN HEADMASTERS THAT YOU TAUGHT WITH, IN PARTICULAR? ANSWER: Father O'Neill, who is the Dean of Men at the College now was at the Prep School. He taught as a Scholastic and then later on, he was the Dean of Discipline and also he was a Student Counselor too at one time and then there are others that I'm just trying to think of who have gone on. I mentioned Father Landry and Father Langguth and Father Berry. I'm just trying to recall some of those great men we had. It's. not coming as quickly as I want. 9UESTION $86. VHS #1 11-12-52-171 I NOTICED YOU HAD THAT SHEET OF PAPER YOU BROUGHT WITH YOU AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE OTHER THINGS ON THERE THAT WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS? ANSWER: I mentioned that it was during the first Commencement Week of the University the program listed the planting of a Dogwood Tree on the right side of the walk leading from Berchmans up to McAuliffe and the tree is still there, fully grown and healthy and at the ceremony, a senior college student who was a graduate of Prep, gave the inspiring address there -- Bob Fitzpatrick. I remember that day because his mother and father were great workers and great benefactors of the Prep School. His mother was once the President of Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 47 the Bellarmine Guild and his father was President of the Father's Club, so Bob gave that particular address and I still remember that very much, very well. QUESTION $87, VHS #1 (1-14-05-20) DID-MOST OF THE STUDENTS FROM THE FIRST FEW GRADUATING CLASSES AT THE PREP, ONCE THE UNIVERSITY HAD OPENED ITS DOORS, DID THEY GO ON TO FAIRFIELD UNIVERSITY BY AND LARGE? ---- ANSWER: The first graduating class? QUESTION $88, VHS #1 (1-14-17-01) NO, NOT THE FIRST BECAUSE I KNOW THE UNIVERSITY WASN'T HERE THEN, BUT BY THE TIME THE LATE '40's OR EARLY '501S, DID MOST OF THE PREP STUDENTS GO ON TO THE UNIVERSITY? ANSWER: They did, they really did. I think I mentioned Bellarmine Hall where we lived, it was the Hearthstone, it was the Fairfield Prep Yearbook and that's after the Hearthstone up in Bellarmine Hall, up in the Lasher Estate and that's how it got the name, the Hearthstone. There was a group up there, living up there, I remember at the time of the War I lived on the second floor facing the Sound and we had to put heavy drapes over the windows so we couldn't be seen from the shore, from the water. We had one car then, too and we had to use it, with the shortness of gas, if we had to go downtown, we'd have to walk those days. THINGS MUST HAVE BEGUN TO CHANGE GRADUALLY I GUESS AS TIME WENT ON . ANSWER : Oh they did, they did. Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 48 QUESTION $89, VHS #1 (1-15-31-22) LOOKING BACK ON ALL THE YEARS YOU WERE AT THE PREP, WHAT DO YOU REGARD AS YOUR MOST IMPORTANT ACCOMPLISHMENT, YOUR LEGACY TO THE PREP? ANSWER: Well what I've ... my own Jesuit life has been tremendous here because it's been my life. Now I'm on my 50th year and my teaching and my contact with the people and my musical work because and I've gone out to do a lot of parish work too, giving lenten courses and Novenas and I've gone all over the country giving retreats to various religious orders. It's been a spiritual work and then the music...what I do musically, I go around to various nursing homes now and play for them for a little Sing-A-Long because it gets them out of themselves, you see, so my whole life here has been one blessed event in my whole life which I'd never wanted otherwise because I have thoroughly enjoyed it in every way. At times, it hasn't been easy, but nevertheless the Good Lord gives us the grace to carry on so that's what I'm trying to do. But musically I've been able to do a lot for the school and spiritually I have. Many of these young men that I've mentioned entered the Seminary and I keep up contact with them. I remember when Bishop Sheehan was here. He had me give spiritual conferences to all the seminarians once a week in the summertime, so it's been an involvement with education and spiritual work and so on and it's been wonderful. I've enjoyed it very much. PUESTION $90, VHS #1 (1-17-38-06) WERE THERE ANY DIFFICULT PERIODS Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 49 HERE THAT YOU RECALL, ANY OBSTACLES THAT HAD TO BE OVERCOm, PROBLEMS THAT YOU ALL HAD TO FACE TOGETHER? ANSWER : They weren't serious problems. It was the pioneering. I remember we couldn't get home to visit our folks too much in those days. I remember the fare to ~ostonat-that time was $4.57 one way and we'd get home about once a year and so on, which was fine because our work was down here and so on. The other obstacles we had to do - - we never had to do with them now -- we didn't live in as nice a setting that we have at the present timeL-down in the Ignatius House, but we lived it. As I mentioned, on the top of Berchmans, even thought we lived up there we had to go up to Bellarmine for our meals and for all our spiritual conferences and that was it, you just accepted it and went. Then you'd be assigned every Friday night to help in some parish, which meant that you had to go to New Fairfield and Old Saybrook and all around you took those things in stride, which meant that your weekends were just occupied from Saturday afternoon to Sunday afternoon and you'd come back to start your teaching, so it was constant, but that was the way it was. Looking back, it was interesting, but it wasn't negative. It was different than what we have at the present time because the place has grown so. 9UESTION $91, VHS #J. (1-19-30-26L WERE YOU ALWAYS TEACHING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME COURSES OR DID YOU TAKE ON NEW RESPONSIBILITIES? ANSWER: Oh, I taught Freshmen and then I taught Sophomore Latin Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 50 and English. Then when I was the Student Counselor and Academic Counselor, I taught Religion to all the Senior classes, so I had that along with my counseling, I did all the Religion teaching too. QUESTION $92, VHS #1 (1-20-02-23)- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PREP TODAY? DO YOU FEEL IT'S AS STRONG AS EVER, HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? ANSWER: It's a little different, but things are different, patterns have changed and I don't say that-negatively, but I'm not as aware as I would be if I were up there every day. It's a different ball game in some ways you see and the approach is a little different, but again, things change, but that hasn't changed our own Jesuit ideals, what we're supposed to do. But the lay teachers and @ there are so many of them and they are fine people, but it's a different thing. I don't say that negatively at all, but I think we need good friendly relationships in every Headmaster to establish good rapport, not only with us, but with the people, the teachers and so on; that's very essential because there have been some tremendously devoted people presently to the Prep. I still have contacts with the Bellarmine Guild and I try to get to their monthly meetings, but they're just very enthused about the school which is a great thing. QUESTION $93, VHS #1 (1-21-28-16) ARE MOST OF THE STUDENTS, THE MAJORITY OF GRADUATES STILL GOING ON TO FAIRFIELD UNIVERSITY? Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 51 ,WE,: Oh no, no, I don't think so. It depends...so many of them, it depends financially I think, their f.inancia1 resources. THAT'S FXNE. Terrific. You edit this thing? .It's 11 o'clock. I thought it was . .- - - -- about. ... . TIME MOVES ALONG VERY QUICKLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS. -ANSWER: I booed at some things, but you edit the thing. WE CAN EASILY DO THAT. - .- There's a list of all these. A nice 'history of the Prep here. WHO WROTE THAT? ANSWER: It was in the Prep ... Oral History: Thomas Murphy, S.J. Page 52 |
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